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Hello everyone, I am the new owner of 1974 Oday 22 and have just joined Sailnet and am very excited about what you all have to offer a newbie like me and hope to be able to contribute as well as I can. First thing I would love to get my hands on is the operations and rigging manual? Does anyone have one they would share? I have a construction and engineering back ground and can't wait to give the "Nauti NikkI" some love and well needed attention. Cheers! Craig  

Just an update.... Don't need a manual any more. I found an operations and rigging manual over at Iheartodays.com. Mike has a lot of different manuals for the O'day line and is very easy to work with.  

Glad you found that website. Another one is odayowners.com. Lots of info available on line. And Denise's suggestion of Rudy at D&R Marine is spot on. Hope you weren't too disappointed with the "manual". A double-sided, legal-sized sheet is really a let down if you were expecting something like you get with a car. Welcome to the O'day Owners Club! We're a proud, somewhat scruffy group of sailors who generally couldn't afford a Catalina or a Hunter.  

Craig , 22s from the 70s -80s are all quite similar to the Catalina 22. Does your boat have a "pop" top? Sources: Rudy @ D&Rmarine and Catalina direct. Lots of stuff available!  

Anyone have a good .pdf copy of a 1985 O'Day 22 manual Thanks Ted  

Ted: did you check odayowners dot com and/or iheardodays dot com yet? Those would be the two most likely sources. I have the Oday 23 "manual" that I can share if you like. Get ready for a disappointment though: it's a two-sided sheet of legal sized paper.  

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O’Day 22

A nice cockpit, a touch of privacy and good looks, but performance is not a strong suit here..

O’Day Boats was around a long time by fiberglass boatbuilding standards—about 30 years. Originally O’Day was a leader in small boats typified by the Fox-designed Day Sailer.

By the early ’70s O’Day had moved into the trailerable cruising boat market. In the meantime the firm was acquired by Bangor Punta along with such other major boat builders as Cal and Ranger Yachts. In later years, with the decline in volume sales of small boats, O’Day had problems. To help alleviate these, O’Day produced larger and larger boats, first a 30, then a 32, and more recently a 34 and a 37.

All the cruising size boats in the O’Day line were designed by C. Raymond Hunt Associates in one of the most enduring designer-builder relationships in the industry (rivaled, in fact, only by Bill Lapworth’s tenure as Cal’s house designer and Bruce King’s with Ericson Yachts). The result of the relationship is a family resemblance in the O’Day line that is more than superficial. What proves popular in one boat is apt to be adopted in subsequent kin. Therefore, any study of the O’Day offerings over the years reflects a process of evolution.

When it was introduced, the O’Day 22 was touted as a competitive contender on the race course, a contrasting companion to the rather hazy 23-footer which it would soon phase out. The 22 had a masthead rig, a stylish rake to the transom, shallow (23″) draft with a short stub keel and no centerboard, light weight (advertised 1,800 lbs) for trailering, and a price under $3,000.

Later, the 22 acquired a fractional rig, a centerboard, 300 advertised pounds and a price tag almost $7,000 higher.

Construction

O’Day once set a standard for small boat construction and styling. That was before on and off labor problems in its plant, management changes under Bangor Punta, the decline in sales of boats in its size range, and increasingly fierce competition for buyers who became more cost than quality conscious. The later O’Day 22s were, frankly, a mixed bag of quality and shabbiness.

The spars, rigging, and hardware are as high quality as we have seen in comparable boats. Our only reservation is with the stamped stainless steel hinged mast step that we know from personal experience requires a steady hand and boat when raising or lowering a mast.

We also think that a mainsheet which terminates in a cam action cleat 16″ up the single backstay may be economical and simple but it is neither efficient nor handy, again a reflection of scrimping to keep price low.

The quality of O’Day fiberglass laminates was historically high but there have been reader reports of gelcoat voids and there is consistent evidence of print through (pattern of laminate in gelcoat). Exterior styling and proportions are superb, an opinion iterated by owners who have returned the PS Boat Owners’ Questionnaires. The O’Day 22, despite her age, is still not outdated.

On a boat of this size and price, a minimum of exterior trim is understandable. What is less understandable is the poor quality of the interior finish and decor. Belowdecks the O’Day 22 epitomizes the pejorative label Clorox bottle , used to describe fiberglass boats. Sloppily fitted bits of teak trim are matched against teak-printed Formica, at best a tacky combination. Cabinetry, such as there is, is flimsy, and in general the whole impression is of lackluster attention to details.

Performance

Without a centerboard the O’Day 22 simply did not have the performance to go with her racy image. Even with the centerboard she is hardly a ball of fire under sail. She does not point well; tacking through 100 degrees is not uncommon and she is tender, with a disconcerting desire to round up when a puff hits. In light air, with her 3/4 fore triangle and working jib she is under-canvassed and sluggish. In such conditions a genoa with substantial overlap is essential.

Since changing jibs is at best a dicey exercise on a 22 footer, the first step in reducing sail is to reef the mainsail. Jiffy reefing is standard and owners of the O’Day should have a system in good working order and know how to use it. Owners of the boat in waters where squalls are a threat may also want to consider roller furling for the larger jib, trading off the loss of performance and added cost for such a rig for the convenience and, in the case of this boat, the safety.

The O’Day is most hurt in light air downwind and most owners will want either an 8′-or-so whisker pole for winging the jib, or a spinnaker. It is a fun boat on which to learn spinnaker handling. With her fractional rig the spinnaker is relatively small and yet the boat is big enough to provide a foredeck platform for setting the sail.

The trouble is that the O’Day 22 scrimps on the hardware needed for ease of handling with or without a spinnaker. The two #10 Barient sheet winches are, in our opinion, inadequate for anything larger than a working jib and we suggest replacing them with optional #16s. Similarly, the working jib sheets lead to fixed blocks whereas lengths of track with adjustable blocks (fitted to some boats as an option) are far better for optimizing sail trim.

The O’Day did not come with halyard winches as standard. It is a large boat for setting and reefing sails with hand tension alone. Most owners will want at least one small winch (#10) on the cabin roof, with the jib and main halyards led aft through jam cleats or stoppers to the winch.

The fairing of the O’Day 22 underwater is better than average, helped by the fact that the lead ballast is encapsulated in the fiberglass hull molding. The centerboard will, however, be difficult to maintain.

Like many other boats of her size on the market, the O’Day 22 is basically a daysailer with incidental overnight accommodations, notwithstanding that her builder (or its ad agency) made much of its questionable comfort, privacy, and space.

The cockpit of the O’Day is almost perfect: a spacious 6-1/2′ long, the seats are spaced to allow bracing of feet on the one opposite, and the coaming provides a feeling of security and serves as a comfortable arm rest. It is also self-bailing although the low sill at the companionway means that the lower hatch board must be in place to prevent water going below in the event of a knockdown.

Seat locker space is excellent for a boat of this size with quarterberth below and we like the separate sealed well for the outboard remote gas tank (but not the fact that the hose can be pinched in use).

O’Day literature boasts berths for two couples in “absolute privacy.” Privacy in a 22 footer has to be one of the more relative features. A sliding door encloses the forward cabin and another, the head.

The layout of the O’Day 22 is a noteworthy example of the tradeoff between an enclosed head and berth space. It does indeed have a head area that can be enclosed, a rare feature indeed on a boat of this size. With a conventional marine toilet and throughhull discharge where permitted, this would be a most serviceable facility.

The tradeoff is a pair of terrible vee berths forward. Coming to a point at the forward end, there is simply not enough room for two adults on even the most intimate terms. They are thus suitable only for a pair of small children who do not suffer from sibling rivalry.

By contrast the two settee berths in the main cabin are a bit narrow but a fit place for two adults to sleep. In contrast to the dinette layout of other boats, we think the more traditional layout of the O’Day would be the choice for most owners, especially those cruising with children. However, the settees are not comfortable to sit on, lacking as they do backrests.

The initial version of the O’Day had the then fashionable dinette arrangement but this was quickly replaced by a pair of opposing settees. We doubt if many owners would bother setting up the portable cabin table between the berths, as it prevents the fore and aft passage through the cabin.

The galley with its small sink and space for a twoburner stove is rudimentary but adequate for a boat of this size, Inadequate is the bin/hanging locker opposite the head. Its usefulness escapes us. Enclosed, it could have been better used space. But then the O’Day 22 desperately needs stowage space.

Conclusions

At a minimum trailering weight of 2,200 lbs. (more realistically 2,500 plus the trailer), the O’Day 22 is above the maximum for trailering without a heavy car and special gear.

If she isn’t going to be trailered and launched off a ramp, the 2′ minimum draft is an unwarranted sacrifice of performance and stability. We would look for a fin keel boat unless shoal draft is the highest priority.

On the other hand, with some additional sails and hardware the O’Day 22 should appeal to the sailor who wants a minimum size (and therefore price) boat primarily for daysailing and occasional weekend cruising (maximum one couple plus two young children).

Clearly the O’Day 22 is a minimum boat built tightly to a price. She is attractively styled. As she is apt to be a first boat, resale is important. O’Day boats have enjoyed good value on the used boat market. For about $6,000 for a ten-year-old model, you get a sleek looking small boat with a good cockpit, a modicum of privacy and two good berths. You also get a schlocky decor and a slow boat.

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hi, do you sell parts for boat 22ft o-day ? are you in england ? the part i want is the part the black boat

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O'Day 22

O'Day 22 is a 21 ′ 8 ″ / 6.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Raymond Hunt (C.R. Hunt & Assoc.) and built by O'Day Corp. between 1972 and 1983.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

One of the most successful of all O’Day models with more than 3000 built. A fractional rig was adopted after 1980 (as shown here). Available with keel/cb and fixed keel. (The version with a mashead rig listed here as O’DAY 22 MH)

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O'day 22

The o'day 22 is a 21.67ft fractional sloop designed by c. raymond hunt & assoc. and built in fiberglass by o'day corp. between 1972 and 1983., 3159 units have been built..

The O'day 22 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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Found readable copy of O'day 22 "manual"

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• Start date Jun 21, 2011
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/51807557@N07/sets/72157625609731850/with/5265378105/ If you want to save it you have to click on the pic to bring it up, then right click on it to bring up the picture size menu, then click large to bring up another page, then you will see towards the top of the page an option to download the large version of the image. You cant just right click save on that site. Figured this might help anyone looking for it, as for some reason everything uploaded on here is so worthlessly fuzzy as to be useless. (scuse me venting my frustration) Its just a 6 page pamphlet really, but if you've never had a sailboat before, or only dealt with totally different types of boats, there was some stuff in here that really helped me figure out what some odd bits were or the order of operations for rigging and adjustment. Its pretty useful for a newbie actually.  

Nice to see, Thanks!!!!  

That's my Flickr Page, The images were donated by another board member. We had a thread going to let people know where to find them, but it must be buried by now. There's some pics of the boat in there too. Hey PPPPPP42 do you recognize my boat? I just bought it in the fall from a boat dealer in Hudson!  

When I first got mine I went to the owner info here and found a very unreadable copy, later I eventually found the one you linked to...didn't even think of posting a link to it for the benefit of others...good job, and also belated thanks to johnnyC.  

Hey PPP, Yeah The boat and I are a bit further north now. Winnipeg, MB Canada. but let me know what you need pics of and I can post to my flickr page. There may be some interior shots on there already, I'll just make sure they are set for the public. I had bought the boat at Hoopers Yachts, I didn't get quite as hot a deal as you did, but my boat was basically ready to sail, which fits my carpentry skill level about perfectly.  

Yep, I'm pretty sure I looked at your boat, don't recall if I was able to go inside or if it was locked and I just looked through the windows. Hooper's is one of the few places around here that specializes in sailboats, so I looked at a lot of stuff there while trying to figure out what I wanted, it was probably actually that boat that got me looking for an O'day 22 because I thought the simplicity if a fixed shoal keel was exactly what I was looking for when I saw it. I believe I also looked at a white one with a blue stripe similar to the one I have now at some point too. Yours is in much nicer condition and actually has sails however. I'm sure it was well out of my price range. EDIT: I'm mainly looking to see in what ways my running rigging has been modified, some is changed, some is missing. And also get a better idea of the original interior configuration. I'm not entirely certain how my sink migrated from one side of the cabin to the other. And all that's left of my sliding door is the lower track. I've already decided to make everything forward of the bulkhead into one big bed with storage and flotation and possibly the porta potty underneath it. I'm not sure if i'll be putting the sink back as it seems to be one piece of equipment that hardly ever gets used in a boat this size. I also would like to find some way, up to and including replacement to get the upper cabin portholes to open with screens and yet still be waterproof when closed. The boat I have has no forward hatch (some, if not all really early ones didn't it seems), which means I need other ways to ventilate. But then this is quickly becoming a topic for another thread which I will bother to start later when I finally have other things sorted and can actually work on the boat. Dunno if I ever posted the link to my pics on here though. Have several pics of the keel crack I have to glass up too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/64362863@N05/  

PPP, Thanks for posting your interior pictures. My ODay 20 has had the floor completely stripped out. My plan is to glass ribs into the hull and then lay a floor of sythetic deck boards. How much clearance is between the hull and the bottom of your inside floor? I will need to leave my ribs thick enough at the narrowest point for the deck fasteners. regards, Todd  

Actually the floor wasn't really reinforced or across ribs, its more like a fiberglass carpet just laid out, there was a small u shaped drainage channel running down the middle under the floor though. It was apparently supposed to end right below the drain hole in the rear of the cabin floor where it could be pumped out or so it seems. There's a lot missing and cut away so its not really clear. The flat floor was only across the middle, the sides in the locker areas are curved outer hull at the bottom.  

From what I've read. Apparently the 20 had a inner pan that was the separation between the hull and the cabin floor. The seat lockers and the V-berth are molded in this pan. My "pan" has been removed. Inside my cabin is the raw fiberglass of the hull.  

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