The Morris 38 is a 37.42ft masthead sloop designed by Chuck Paine & Associates and built in fiberglass by Morris Yachts since 1985.
The Morris 38 is a moderate weight sailboat which is under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
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Main features
Model | Morris 38 | ||
Length | 37.42 ft | ||
Beam | 11.58 ft | ||
Draft | 5.50 ft | ||
Country | United states (North America) | ||
Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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Sail area / displ. | 0 | ?? | |
Ballast / displ. | 38.46 % | ||
Displ. / length | 271.31 | ||
Comfort ratio | 28.98 | ||
Capsize | 1.86 |
Hull type | Monohull fin keel shoal draft | ||
Construction | Fiberglass | ||
Waterline length | 29.50 ft | ||
Maximum draft | 5.50 ft | ||
Displacement | 15602 lbs | ||
Ballast | 6000 lbs | ||
Hull speed | 7.28 knots |
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Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
Sail area (100%) | 0 sq.ft | ?? | |
Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
Sail area fore | 0 sq.ft | ?? | |
Sail area main | 0 sq.ft | ?? | |
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Nb engines | 1 | ||
Total power | 0 HP | ||
Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
Accommodations
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Headroom | 0 ft | ||
Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
Nb of berths | 0 | ||
Nb heads | 0 |
Builder data
Builder | Morris Yachts | ||
Designer | Chuck Paine & Associates | ||
First built | 1985 | ||
Last built | 0 | ?? | |
Number built | 0 | ?? |
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Morris 38 is a 37 ′ 5 ″ / 11.4 m monohull sailboat designed by C. W. (Chuck) Paine and built by Morris Yachts starting in 1985.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
Similar to JUSTINE 36 but with extended stern.
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Review of Morris 38
Basic specs..
The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season.
The boat equipped with a masthead rig. The advantage of a masthead rig is its simplicity and the fact that a given sail area - compared with a fractional rig - can be carried lower and thus with less heeling moment.
The Morris 38 is equipped with a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel.
The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.68 - 1.78 meter (5.51 - 5.81 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?
The capsize screening value for Morris 38 is 1.85, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 7.3 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Morris 38 is about 212 kg/cm, alternatively 1190 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 212 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1190 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Sailing statistics
This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.
What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?
What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?
What is a Ballast Ratio?
What is Displacement Length Ratio?
Maintenance
When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 35m 2 (376 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.
If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
Jib sheet | 11.4 m | (37.4 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
Genoa sheet | 11.4 m | (37.4 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
Mainsheet | 28.5 m | (93.6 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
Spinnaker sheet | 25.1 m | (82.4 feet) | 14 mm | (0.55 inch) |
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Fin (shoal draft)
Specifications MORRIS 38
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MORRIS 38 Sailboat Data
Hull Type: Fin (shoal draft) Rigging Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 37.42 ft / 11.41 m LWL: 29.50 ft / 8.99 m Beam: 11.58 ft / 3.53 m Displacement: 15,602.00 lb / 7,077 kg Ballast: 6,000.00 lb / 2,722 kg Max Draft: 5.50 ft / 1.68 m Construction: FG First Built: 1985 Builder: Morris Yachts (USA) Designer: Chuck Paine & Associates
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Hull Speed: 7.28 kn
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What makes Morris Yachts so good. Not sure why they are so expensive?
They are hand built in the USA...each is custom...only the best is used to make them and the workmanship is wonderful as are the sailing qualities. They hold their value. The rest of the price is marketing and brand related...like Hinckley and Mercedes.
Basically, the things you're paying for are quality of the product, quality of the customer service, quality of the engineering, etc. Their boats are designed for the long run...
Morris builds what is commonly called "semi-custom" boats. What that term means is the hull, and usually the deck, is standardized in the various sizes Morris builds, and the rest of the boat can pretty much be built as you want it. In practice, most buyers go with the standard rig that Morris recommends, and then Morris designs and builds out the interior to suit the original owner. Options are essentially unlimited, subject to space and budget. Sometimes owners want to change even the rig, and they select something that very few buyers would want and that production builders wouldn't be interested in building. For example, Morris started building a 32' boat in the late 1980s (I have one I bought used in 2000), which later morphed into a 34' with a slightly revised transom and keel. All of the 32s and 34s have been sloops, but just recently a 34 was delivered with a yawl rig. Split rigs in a boat of that size are not currently popular, but one owner wanted one and now he has it. More commonly buyers decide how many cabins they want; where they want the non-structural bulkheads; how many cabinets, shelves, berths, heads, etc., they want their boat to have; what wood they want the interior built in; what finish they want on the hard and soft surfaces; what electronics they want; what brand of diesel engine they like; tiller vs. wheel steering; type and brand of sail handling equipment, sailmaker, etc. If you have a favorite brand of any of the equipment found often or rarely on a modern sailboat, Morris will most likely accomodate your selection. All of this handwork comes at a price as it is simply not possible to turn out vast quantities of boats when doing so much customizing. Some of the equipment put on the boat is one of a kind, for example, custom stainless or bronze pieces. All of the woodworking is custom fitted. Morris opened for business in the 1970's. For most of its history it built about half a dozen boats per year. I remember receiving an invitation to the 25th or 30th anniversary celebration, and at that time the entire Morris fleet consisted of somewhere around 200 boats. More recently Morris has had very good success with its line of "daysailors", and the production numbers have increased quite a bit, but I doubt Morris has yet built its 300th boat. If so, that boat would have been built fairly recently. In contrast, even the high quality production builders often construct a couple of hundred sailboats per year. What do you get for the money? All of the Morris cruising boats have been designed by Chuck Paine, one of America's pre-eminent naval architects. He worked in Camden, ME, very near the Morris yards. The craftsmen at Morris are quite good, and they'll make the boat just like you want it. The equipment is very high quality, and if you like something even better or just different, you only have to ask for it. Comparing a semi-custom or custom boat to a production boat is similar to making the same comparison between a true custom home (not what is currently marketed as such by many homebuilders!) versus a production home. Both provide shelter, but the custom home is designed and built just like you want it and to a standard that most people couldn't or wouldn't justify financially. Is the extra cost worth it? Depends on the owner. I like mine, but I recognize I could have bought a bigger boat for the same money if I didn't select a Morris.
I don't understand on the resale value why Morris holds its value so much better then a Shannon. A used 39' Shannon costs $250k but a used 38' Morris costs $375k. Both seem to be of the same quality. Is a used Morris worth $375k? I live in Florida so I would need to add a generator and a/c. In the end I would have +/- $425,000 in a 38' boat. Not sure if this would make sense!
I'm no expert on these two boats, but I've spent time on both at slips. Although the Shannon 39 and Morris 38 seem superficially the same size, I think the Shannon is a fair amount larger. According to published data, it displaces almost 20% more than the Morris. Both boats are evolutions of nominally smaller boats by the same builders. The Morris 38 evolved from the 36, but was otherwise very much the same in many ways. The transom was extended, and the deck was revised, but in the same way the 32/34 are virtually identical from the aft cockpit forward, so too are the 36 and 38 near twins. Shannon started with a "full keel" 38 (I use quotes because the keel isn't "full" in the strict sense of the term), which later evolved into a keel/centerboard 37, and now into the current cruising fin 39. There have been rig advancements along the way, with the early boats being cutters or ketches, and the latest iteration normally being double headsail sloops or ketches. Down below, I believe the space available for accomodations has been pretty much the same from 38 to 37 to 39. I'd be surprised if either the Morris 36 or 38 have room for a diesel generator and A/C. Many have been built with A/C, but only for dock powered use. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I suspect you need to be in the Morris 40/42 (or better yet, the 46) to have room for a generator. Those boats have much more displacement than the 36/38. While the Shannon 38 is pretty sizeable, I'd also be surprised if you could fit a generator in one of those without giving up lots of space you'd otherwise like to have. I suppose you could sacrifice a quarterberth for generator space, but I don't remember seeing any of that series Shannon with generators. It may well have been done, and I'm just unaware. I do remember seeing some of the 43's advertised with generators. I think very highly of the Shannons, and considered buying one myself many years ago. They're nice boats. In my view they are probably more of a pure cruising boat than the similar sized Morris boats. According to NE phrf ratings, the Morris 38 is almost 30 seconds per mile faster than the Shannon 38. The finish work on the Morris boats is a little better in my opinion than found on the Shannons. I'm not sure why there is such a price differential right now. One of the Morris 38s, Alacrity, which is a current listing, is a boat I've been aboard. It's eye-poppingly beautiful, but a lot of money at 390K. I wish I could afford it. There are two slightly older Shannon 39s presently listed at 215K. Some of the difference may be due to condition, sails, electronics, etc., but there's no denying in the current marketplace the Morris boats are more expensive than Shannons. In fact, there's a 1997 Shannon 43, which I think are extremely nice and spacious boats, listed for less than Alacrity. Part of the answer may just be supply and demand. Last year I thought the Morris 46s in the used market were attractively priced. I remember one built in the mid 1990's was asking 425K. That is much more boat than the 38 if size is important. All three of the 46s that were for sale last year are now gone, and the only one left is a recent build and much more expensive. I suspect the large number of Shannon 38s built from 1978 or so forward tend to depress the value of the 39s. There are usually quite a few 38s for sale at any given time, and the asking prices tend to hover around 100K, plus or minus. Asking prices on the Morris 36s seem to have been rising pretty steadily for the last 5 or so years. I remember when I bought my 32 in 2000 that a 36 could have been bought for 150-160K. Now the asking prices tend to be quite a bit higher, often well into the mid to upper 200K range. I don't know what the sales are actually closing at, but a broker could tell you that. Good luck in your search. You have your sights set on two top flight builders. I keep my boat near Canaveral. It's not a terribly fancy finish inside compared to many of the more recent Morris boats, but if you'd like I'd be glad to show her to you. I also suspect Morris will be at the Miami Show in February with one or two boats. Shannon is usually there also.
According to their website, Morris will be at the Miami show and will be debuting their new M29 daysailor.
If you're thinking of spending that much money on a 38-40' boat, you should at least look at a couple of the Hinckley SW-42's at around $300K, late 80's models. I've seen them with gensets either in the port cockpit locker or in the lazarette. Like the Morris's, they are pretty boats, very well made. Usually they are well kept by owners who love them. If one is cheap (less than $280K) it is probably pretty tired. If your use is primarily long distance cruising with a couple, a Shannon makes sense. I wouldn't pick one for primarily daysailing/weekending because the performance under sail will be sluggish compared to the Morris. Both are very nice boats, and will hold their value if maintained. Since you live in Florida, it would be appropriate to point out that any boat with a lot of exterior brightwork will be maintenance intensive in your climate. As to your original question, why are Morris's so expensive? Simple. walk down a dock full of Hunter's, Catalina's, Beneteau's, etc. Then go look at a Morris or Hinckley. A well kept Morris is a work of art.
"The fact is that there are plenty of brand new 32-foot cruising boats you can buy for less than half of what you will have to cough up for a 10 to 12-year-old Morris 32. On the other hand, how many mass-produced Thomas Kincaid paintings can you buy for the cost of a single work of art by Andrew Wyeth?" From a Morris 32 review in the March 2002 issue of SpinSheet by Jack Hornor
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40 to 50 indicates a heavy bluewater boat; over 50 indicates an extremely heavy bluewater boat. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam^1.33), where displacement is expressed in pounds, and length is expressed in feet. Capsize Screening Formula (CSF): Designed to determine if a boat has blue water capability.
The Morris 38 is a 37.42ft masthead sloop designed by Chuck Paine & Associates and built in fiberglass by Morris Yachts since 1985. The Morris 38 is a moderate weight sailboat which is under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
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A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize. Formula. 38.46. <40: less stiff, less powerful.
The Morris 38 is equipped with a fin keel. A boat with a fin keel is more manoeuvrable but has less directional stability than a similar boat with a full keel. The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.68 - 1.78 meter (5.51 - 5.81 ft) dependent on the load.
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MORRIS 38 Sailboat Data Hull Type: Fin (shoal draft) Rigging Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 37.42 ft / 11.41 m LWL: 29.50 ft / 8.99 m Beam: 11.58 ft / 3.53 m Displacement: 15,602.00 lb / 7,077 kg Ballast: 6,000.00 lb / 2,722 kg Max Draft: 5.50 ft / 1.68 m…
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