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Considering Bandit 17 of unknown vintage

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  • Start date Jul 2, 2014
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Hello, I am seeking advice and opinions on a Bandit 17 MFG as a beginner sailers first boat to learn and get their hands salty.  

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Small boats are generally the best for acquiring and honing sailing skills. They will not be the easiest to learn on but the better. A small boat usually responds quicker to changes in wind speed and direction and to the corresponding control inputs. They will require your attention most of the time. Larger boats will provide a more stable platform, be less responsive and more forgiving. A small boat will challenge you and make you a better sailor.  

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The Bandit 17 is a 17.0ft fractional sloop designed by Rod MacAlpine-Downie / Dick Gibbs and built in fiberglass by MFG Boat Company (USA) since 1972.

The Bandit 17 is an ultralight sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat.

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Main features

Model Bandit 17
Length 17 ft
Beam 6.67 ft
Draft 0.67 ft
Country United states (North America)
Estimated price $ 0 ??

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Sail area / displ. 40.14
Ballast / displ. 0 %
Displ. / length 52.63
Comfort ratio 3.87
Capsize 3.32
Hull type Centerboard Dinghy
Construction Fiberglass
Waterline length 16.40 ft
Maximum draft 4 ft
Displacement 520 lbs
Ballast 0 lbs
Hull speed 5.43 knots

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Rigging Fractional Sloop
Sail area (100%) 162 sq.ft
Air draft 0 ft ??
Sail area fore 0 sq.ft ??
Sail area main 0 sq.ft ??
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J 0 ft ??
P 0 ft ??
E 0 ft ??
Nb engines 1
Total power 0 HP
Fuel capacity 0 gals

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Headroom 0 ft
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Nb of berths 0
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Builder data

Builder MFG Boat Company (USA)
Designer Rod MacAlpine-Downie / Dick Gibbs
First built 1972
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Specifications BANDIT 17

BANDIT 17 Sailboat Data

Hull Type: Centerboard Dinghy Rigging Type: Fractional Sloop LOA: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m LWL: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m S.A. (reported): 162.00 ft² / 15.05 m² Beam: 6.67 ft / 2.03 m Displacement: 520.00 lb / 236 kg Max Draft: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m Min Draft: 0.67 ft / 0.20 m Construction: FG First Built: 1972 Builder: Sail MFG (USA) Designer: Rod Macalpine-Downie / Dick Gibbs

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Hull Speed: 5.43 kn

Specifications BANDIT 17

Review of Bandit 17

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat equipped with a fractional rig. A fractional rig has smaller headsails which make tacking easier, which is an advantage for cruisers and racers, of course. The downside is that having the wind from behind often requires a genaker or a spinnaker for optimal speed.

CentreBoard

The Bandit 17 is equipped with a centreboard keel. A centreboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters.

The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.20 - 0.30 meter (0.66 - 0.96 ft) dependent of the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Bandit 17 is about 68 kg/cm, alternatively 380 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 68 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 380 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

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Mfg Bandit 17 Sailboat With Moody Trailer And 4hp Johnson Outboard Motor

MFG Bandit 17 sailboat with Moody trailer and 4hp Johnson outboard motor

  • Model: Bandit 17
  • Condition: Used

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MFG BANDIT 17 Designed by Rod Macalpine-Downie, a world famous sailboat designer. Main features: Self draining cockpit Cabin with 3'2" of headroon and 6'6" of length Large foredeck hatch 6'1" cockpit seats Specifications: Length: 17'0" Beam: 6'8" Draft: 4'0" board down, 8" board up Sail area: 162 sq.ft Length of mast: 22' Weight: 520 lbs stripped; 600 lbs all up...

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A division of MFG (Molded Fiberglass Corporation), the original contractor for the fiberglass body of the Chevrolet Corvette, based in Ohio, USA. The founder, Robert S. Morrison, apparently never wished to build, or certain SELL boats. But when a proposal to build fiberglass hulls for the Lyman (power) Boat company fell through, a Boat division (located at Union City, PA), was formed. The lineup consisted primarily of small powerboats. (MFG made power boats for Sears and Roebuck for many years.) The origins of the sail boat division are unclear. Some (early) boats are listed as being built by Anchor Reinforced Plastics. The address listing for Anchor Reinforced Plastics was Hazel Park, MI. In 1965 The company was offering the WHISTLER, PINTAIL, and TEAL under the ‘Anchor Sailboat Division’. Later the name seems to have changed to ‘SailMFG’ when the company bought the Gibbs Boat company in the early 1970’s.(At this time located in Lasalle, Michigan, USA.)

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  2. Bandit 17

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  3. Considering Bandit 17 of unknown vintage

    7,134. CC 30 South Florida. Jul 3, 2014. #4. Small boats are generally the best for acquiring and honing sailing skills. They will not be the easiest to learn on but the better. A small boat usually responds quicker to changes in wind speed and direction and to the corresponding control inputs. They will require your attention most of the time.

  4. Review of Bandit 17

    Keel. The Bandit 17 is equipped with a centerboard keel. A centerboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters. The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.20 - 0.30 meter (0.66 - 0.96 ft) dependent of the load. See immersion rate below.

  5. Bandit 17

    The Bandit 17 is a 17.0ft fractional sloop designed by Rod MacAlpine-Downie / Dick Gibbs and built in fiberglass by MFG Boat Company (USA) since 1972. The Bandit 17 is an ultralight sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat.

  6. Specifications BANDIT 17

    BANDIT 17 Sailboat Data Hull Type: Centerboard Dinghy Rigging Type: Fractional Sloop LOA: 17.00 ft / 5.18 m LWL: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m S.A. (reported): 162.00 ft² / 15.05 m² Beam: 6.67 ft / 2.03 m Displacement: 520.00 lb / 236 kg Max Draft: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m Min Draft: 0.67 ft / 0.20 m Construction: FG First Built: 1972 Builder: Sail MFG (USA ...

  7. 1975 MFG Bandit 17

    1975 MFG Bandit 17. This MFG Bandit 17 sailboat has a fiberglass hull and an LOA of 17 feet (length over all). The boat has a 1298 inch beam. This sailboat is set up to sail as a Sloop. The craft has 165 square feet of sail area. Displacement for the boat is 600 lbs. The draft of this sailboat is approximately 6'6".

  8. Review of MFG Bandit 17

    The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for MFG Bandit 17 is about 201 kg/cm, alternatively 1125 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 201 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1125 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

  9. Bandit 17

    I know I developed the taping systems for the boot stripes. I really don't think the Bandit 17 was made in 1972. The sail number on the 1979 catalog boat was only 295 and, once we started, we were always building at least a couple a week. I had NOTHING to do with the actual final layup schedules.

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  13. 1978 MFG Bandit 17

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  14. 1977 MFG Bandit 17

    1977 MFG Bandit 17 . This MFG sailboat has a hull made of fiberglass and has an overall length of 17 feet. The beam (or width) of this craft is 68 inches. This sailboat is rigged as a Sloop. The sail area for the boat is 162 square feet. Approximate displacement for the vessel comes in at around 600 pounds. According to our records, the draft ...

  15. Review of Bandit 17

    The Bandit 17 is equipped with a centerboard keel. A centerboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters. The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.20 - 0.30 meter (0.66 - 0.96 ft) dependent of the load.

  16. Mfg Bandit 17 Sailboat With Moody Trailer And 4hp Johnson Outboard

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  17. MFG Boat Company

    The origins of the sail boat division are unclear. Some (early) boats are listed as being built by Anchor Reinforced Plastics. The address listing for Anchor Reinforced Plastics was Hazel Park, MI. In 1965 The company was offering the WHISTLER, PINTAIL, and TEAL under the 'Anchor Sailboat Division'. ... Bandit 17. 1972 • 16 ...

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