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Fifteen years after the last Baba was built in Taiwan, the sailboat's traditional styling, large interior and heavy weather performance make it a favorite of cruising couples. Its principal liability is poor light air performance.

The Baba line of boats was conceived in the mid-1970’s by Bob Berg, a Seattle yacht broker who with two business associates formed Flying Dutchman International Ltd. to import traditionally styled cruising boats from Taiwan.

Bob Perry was commissioned to design the boats, which Berg envisioned as a smaller version of the Tayana 37, one of Perry’s most popular designs. Though it is a full-keeled boat, the Tayana 37 has a greater turn of speed than most traditional yachts.

“Our objective was to produce a boat that was faster and less expensive than the Westsail 32 and the Valiant 32,” Berg said. He personally designed the boat’s interior for long­distance cruising. Two versions were offered: a V-berth model, which was popular on the West Coast, and the double berth model that was popular in the East.

Berg chose a propitious time to enter the market. Production began during the heyday of the sailboat industry in 1978 and continued until 1985. More than 230 Baba 30’s were produced. During the later stages of its history, the company produced two stretch versions of the boat-theBaba 35, of which more than 50 were built, and the Baba 40, with more than 150 built. The design of the Baba 40 was reworked twice, first as the Panda 40, and later as the Tashiba 40.

The boats were built in Taiwan for three reasons, Berg said. “Ta Shing boatbuilders were among the best in the world, and the best in Taiwan. Labor was inexpensive. And we enjoyed a favorable exchange rate.”

Ta Shing also built or builds the Mason, Panda, Tashiba and Taswell yachts.

The Baba 30 was introduced with a sticker price of $38,500 in 1977. A subsequent change in the value of the dollar resulted in a price jump to $49,500. That was followed by a 40% devaluation of the Taiwanese dollar and another increase in price.

Two other factors influenced pric­ing: The builder switched from Volvo engines, installed on early models, to Yanmar, and spruce spars were replaced by aluminum. The last boats sold were priced at $78,000.

In addition to pricing issues, the demise of Flying Dutchman International was accelerated by two other factors: a general slump in the purchase of new boats, and a shift in buyer sentiment. During the mid-1980’s, purchasing patterns shifted to a preference for lighter, faster, sleek­er-looking designs.

The Baba 30 continues to have one of the highest resale values in the marketplace. Twenty-year-old boats sell for $55,000 to $60,000; newer models for $60,000 to $65,000. Because Flying Dutchman had dealers on both coasts, the Gulf of Mexico, Great Lakes and Canada, it is possible to find used boats in most areas.

Perry’s design reflects a self-described disdain for the belief that “if it’s a traditional design it will be slow.” His objective was to take a relatively heavy, traditional double-ender and work with the hull lines to “ring every tenth of a knot in speed out of the design that I can.”

He gave the boat an easily driven hull with a prismatic coefficient of .50, “which should take care of performance in light air,” he said. The hull has considerable flair to the top­sides, which enhances stability and provides a dry ride when sailing to weather.

He also flattened the bottom more than a typical Colin Archer design in an attempt to avoid hobby horsing and enhance performance. The boat has a full keel with a cutaway forefoot, so it tracks well. One owner, however, described backing up under power as “an adventure,” a typical characteristic of full-keeled boats.

Owners give the boat high marks for its sea kindly motion in all types of sea conditions. They generally agree that it suffers in light air.

Perry was equally attentive to the needs of cruisers in the design of spaces belowdecks. That concern, coupled with a pinched stern, produces a rather smallish cockpit. Its seats are 60″ long and 20″ wide, so realistically has comfortable seating for four adults. The footwell is 44″ long and 28″ wide, but useful space is diminished by the introduction of a steering pedestal. The cockpit is not large enough for sleeping comfort­ably, but its small size is a safety feature in the event of boarding waves. Also, there are two 2″ scuppers.

The flip side of the minimalist approach to the cockpit is an increase in space belowdecks.

“Anything shorter than 30′ is too small for a long-distance cruiser, un­less you are willing to make serious compromises. At 30′, the designer still can create a workable galley, at least four full length berths, and an en­closed head,” Perry said.

The boat has 6′ 4″ headroom and a lot of stowage, even when compared to more recent 32- to 34-footers, but the price of stowage areas is a dramatic increase in displacement. The boat displaces 12,000 lb. on a 24′ 6″ water­line. Perry said that at the time he designed the Baba 30, the average 30- footer displaced about 7 ,000 lb.

“But,” he added, “you will find that the light yacht is short on stowage space, which is fine for short week­end trips and day sailing. I chose a rather beamy double-ender with a healthy displacement-to-length ratio(D/L) of 3 79, which afforded the interior volume to do a comfortable layout.”

The Baba 30 has a tall cutter rig. The sail area-to-displacement ratio (SAID) is 14.97. “While this may be viewed as a rather low figure,” he said, “it is my contention that at this size the use of a 150% genoa is not prohibitive. My aim was to design a rig compatible with the hull I had designed in terms of deriving maximum performance.”

During our test sail, we discovered that a large genoa or light air drifter contributes significantly to downwind speed in winds under 10 knots. Above 15 knots, the boat can be sailed at hull speed with a jib and staysail.

One owner told us that the boat is easily driven to weather, and will point to within 35 of apparent wind when sails are properly trimmed.

“The result of my design is not a cute cartoon,” Perry concluded, “but a really capable offshore cruising yacht.

Construction

Berg, two professional surveyors, and owners who responded to the PS Boatowner’ s Questionnaire agree that the Baba 30 is a well-constructed, blue-water vessel.

The hulls were constructed of uncored, hand-laid fiberglass using alternating layers of 1. 5-ounce mat and 24-ounce woven roving.

There are six layers in most places, and 10-12 layers in the keel area,” Berg recalled.

The interiors of early boats were smoothed and sprayed with gelcoat, and covered with a quilted vinyl material. Later models were sprayed with a foam that provided insulation and sound deadening.

Newer boats we inspected also have hulls lined with teak battens in the saloon and forepeak, which improve noise insulation and add to the boat’s traditional feel. The cabin sole is teak and holly. Cabinetry and joinery are of a quality typically associated with high-end custom yachts.

Berg disclosed that some of the hulls experienced minor blistering problems, “usually within 12″ of the waterline,” he said.

Ron Reisner, a Seattle-based surveyor and construction consultant with Reisner and McEwen, Inc., oversaw construction of Baba yachts during the 1970’s on two trips to Taiwan. He has since surveyed several used Baba 30’s, including two in 1998.

“The boats were substantially built, and have held up well,” he told us. “The only problem we have discovered is that some chainplate bolts have corroded.” Because the bolts are visible from below, their condition is easy to monitor.

Jerry Edwards, a surveyor with the same firm, concurred. Edwards sold, commissioned and performed sea trials on several boats during three years as a yacht broker, and has surveyed seven since becoming a surveyor.

“The construction is on a par with almost any quality production boat,” he said. “The electrical systems are excellent; the company used high quality wire, which was tagged and bundled. The plumbing system is also good. The blisters we saw were usually 1/8″ inch in size, and usually in small clusters near the waterline. They probably were a function of the company using isophthalic resins, rather than orthophthalic. But my main criticism of the boat is the use of a steel fuel tank.”

We inspected boats constructed in 1979 and 1983, both of which had completed trans-Pacific passages, and found no evidence of cracking or crazing on gelcoat surfaces, or of water leaks around the mast or ports. One still has a good non-skid surface on deck. On the other, its teak decks showed little wear.

The first boats produced were equipped with only one set of shrouds, Berg told us. However, after one owner’s boat was dismasted, fore and aft lower shrouds were add­ed to the single spreader rig.

Later models in­corporated a boom gallows.

Deck Layout

One of the Baba 30’s most prominent features is the 4′ bowsprit. It is surrounded by a stainless steel pulpit, and also houses two bow rollers and a large bronze winch.

Most boats were equipped with self-tending staysails, but two we inspected had been retrofitted with furlers on the jib and staysail stays, which simplified sail handling during double-handed passages across the Pacific Ocean.

The rest of the boat’s on-deck systems are rather ordinary; halyards are led to Lewmar 30 two­speed winches mounted on the cabin top, and jib sheets through blocks to Lewmar 40 two-speed winches in the cockpit. Sail tracks, port and star­board, on the coachroof, are for the stay sail sheets. The side decks are 18″ wide. The toerail is 3″ high.

Though tiny, the cockpit is functionally organized. Stowage space includes a port lazarette, two elevated, oval­shaped compartments aft that also provide a backrest for the helmsman and crew, and another vented compartment for a propane tank. Two 14″-wide cubbies with teak covers are good for stowing winch handles and other small items.

Two hatches and four bronze opening ports on each side of the cabin were standard. Two opening skylights over the saloon are 34″ long and 18″ wide; a second 24″ square hatch is located over the forepeak. Additional ventilation is through two 6″ Dorades installed in fiberglass boxes forward of the mast.

One owner mounted a spinnaker pole on a sail track on the front of the mast, which takes no otherwise usable space and eliminates the need to drill holes in the deck.

Accommodations

A number of Baba 30’s have made trans-oceanic passages, carrying adequate provisions for a crew of two. One couple spent 27 days sailing from Hawaii to Seattle.

The layout is fairly straightforward with the galley to port below the companionway, the nav station opposite, and a quarterberth to starboard. An almost triangular-shaped head is to starboard, forward of the saloon, and the V-berth fills the bow. With the exception of countertops in the galley, all of the surfaces are teak, which has aged well on the boats we saw.

The nav table is 28″ wide, and 17″ deep. A cabinet 26″ wide, 14″ high and 12″ deep is on the forward edge of the nav station and provides adequate room for VHS, GPS, ham radio or single-sideband and weatherfax. An additional 50″ x 9″ shelf provides room for books and other instruments.

The quarterberth aft of the nav station is 68″ long (plus 12″ of the nav seat) and 30″ wide and has stowage below it.

We found two interesting stowage areas under the companionway-a hanging locker immediately to starboard of the engine compartment that is large enough for two sets of foul weather gear, and another 18″ wide and 12″ high into which one owner had mounted a small microwave oven.

The engine is accessible by removing the companionway steps and cover, though some owners complain that changing oil filters is an acrobatic challenge.

The galley is a typical U-shaped affair with the ice box aft, a gimbaled two-burner stove and a dry locker and sink forward. Countertops are as large as those found on bigger boats.

Living spaces are equally spacious, partially attributable to the boat’s 10′ 6″ beam and 6′ 4″ headroom. The port settee is 6′ long and the starboard settee is 50″. Three storage compartments measuring 20″ wide, 21″ tall and 16″ deep are located on both sides of the boat, above which are enclosed cabinets more than 24″ long.

Water and fuel tanks are located below the settees.

The head is large enough to be functional but has little elbow room. It measures 31″ deep and 42″ wide, and is equipped with a circular stainless sink. The medicine cabinet is large enough for some toiletries, but too small for a cruising medical kit.

The hanging locker to port is 43″ high and 18″ wide-adequate for a small amount of clothing. We think most clothes will be stored in cabinets below the 77″ x 60″ V-berth. The chain locker/forepeak is accessed through louvered teak doors. A drawback is the water that can come aboard with the ground tackle, not to mention the smell of mud.

In our opinion, the spaces below­decks on this boat are well-organized and adequate for couples planning extended passages, especially com­pared to newer production boats.

Some owners, however, report that tankage numbers are inaccurate. One told us that the fuel tank holds just 2 7 gallons, not 40 as advertised. Another said the two 40-gallon water tanks hold only 50 gallons combined.

Performance

Our experience aboard the Baba 30, corroborated by PS readers, found that in very light winds she’s an under-performer; above that, she performs on all points of sail, is sea kindly and has an easy helm.

The most cogent comments came from a couple in their mid-50’s who sailed a 1976 model from Hawaii to Seattle. After cruising Hawaiian waters for 18 months, they began the upwind route to the mainland, which took 27 days. The boat was not equipped with a spinnaker, so they used a 150% genoa in light air.

In less than 10 knots of wind the boat made 1-2 knots, steered to within 5 of its intended course for three days by an Auto-helm wind vane. When winds picked up to more than 10 knots, boat speed increased to 5 knots while sailing under the vane on a close reach. Three days from port the boat was struck by a 30-hour storm, during which winds built from 20 to 50 knots.

“The wind vane wasn’t operating properly, so we disconnected it, and steered by hand,” the skipper said. “Aside from general fatigue, we had no problems because the boat was easy to sail and the helm well-bal­anced; we just tied off the helm and hid behind the dodger, sailing under a double-reefed main and staysail. The ride was very comfortable. It seems as though the more the wind blew, the stouter the boat became.”

Conclusions

We think the Baba 30 will be pleasing to the eye of any sailor with an appreciation for traditional yachts. The construction methods are among the best used during its era, and have aged well; recent surveys of aging boats show them to be structurally sound. Accommodations are spacious and the joiner work is of very good quality. Performance is about what we’d ex­pect for a boat with her displacement, so it’s no surprise that she’s sluggish in 5-10 knots of wind.

The Baba 30 has held its value well; used boats are still commanding prices nearly as high as they were 10 years ago.

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I’ve never seen a 30 – or any baba – with a self tending staysail, nor have i ever heard of it anywhere else. I don’t know where the number of hatches came from either : companionway, forward hatch, and 10 opening windows (all of them). Most 30s have one inline and one aft lower (though a few moved the inline lower shroud forward). Otherwise, this seems mostly accurate. Oh, several dozen hull numbers were skipped so there’s about 150 30s produced i believe.

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T he Baba 30 is a small but serious cruising boat. And it certainly looks the part with a shapely canoe stern, springy sheerline and proud bowsprit. The Baba 30 pedigree arcs through Colin Archer's converted lifeboats of the 19th century to the famed Tahiti ketches that carried early cruisers around the world between wars. More recently, like many small double-enders that sprang to life in the 1970s, the Baba 30 was inspired by the stunning success of the Westsail 32. Baba 30 designer Bob Perry confesses that the Westsail was a role model of sorts for some of his early cruising designs.

"To sell a cruising design in those days, it had to look something like the Westsail," Perry said.

Indeed, salty double-enders with full keels were de rigueur during those cruising boom years, and not surprisingly they've stood the test of time. Many are still making bluewater passages today. This past summer I noted an older Baba 30 in the anchorage at St. George's, Bermuda. It glistened with fresh varnish and its solo skipper was on his way to the Mediterranean. When American exporter Bob Berg commissioned a small yard in Tainan, Taiwan, to build Perry's design, few would have predicted that Ta Shing, then a fledgling builder of local fishing boats, would develop into one of the world's finest yacht builders. Quoted in Spurr's comprehensive book, Heart of Glass, Perry says that he had to kick the chickens out of the way when walking to the Ta Shing yard in those early days. According to Spurr, the workers couldn't pronounce Bob Berg's name, it came out as "Baba," and it stuck. The Baba 30 sounds better than the Berg 30. Launched in 1978, the Baba 30 was Ta Shing's first sailboat, and by the time production stopped in 1985, 230 had been built. Perry credits Berg with taking the time to overcome communication snafus with the crew at Ta Shing, thus eliminating the construction woes that plagued other Taiwan yards. "Ta Shing essentially required no learning curve," Perry said. "They were great right out of the starting blocks." Ta Shing went on to produce many fine sailboat lines, including Taswell, Norseman and Tashiba.

First impressions

If you're a traditionalist the Baba 30 will stir you. Nicely proportioned and laden with teak, the Baba 30 conjures visions of lush tropical islands. Close your eyes, can you see it, a lovely Baby 30 swinging at anchor in Cook's Bay, Moorea? Once aboard you realize that the Baba 30 isn't really a pocket cruiser. It's a big boat trapped in short body. The 12,500 pounds of displacement and 5,000 pounds of ballast are the telling figures. By way of comparison, other early full-keel 30-footers like the Alberg, Bristol and Cape Dory weigh considerably less. The rig is a classic cutter with 504 square feet of working sail area. Early boats were fitted with wooden spars and came standard with a hanked-on staysail and yankee. Today, most Baba 30s on the used market have furling headsails and some a furling staysail as well. The hull shape features a long bow overhang and gradual sloping forefoot that trails into a long keel section. The rudder is completely protected and the prop is housed in a small aperture. While the Baba 30 is at home in blue water, especially if it's blowing, it's a handful when backing into a slip under power.

Construction

The hull is solid fiberglass, laid up to heavy scantlings. Supposedly the lamination schedule exceeded Lloyd's A-1 specs and some boats were built to Lloyd's 100-A1 and have the certificate to prove it. This process didn't require more fiberglass just more supervision. The deck is cored with either balsa or plywood, in either case end-grain sections were used to prevent the spread of core delamination caused by leaks. Most early boats had teak decks. Love them or loathe them, everybody has an opinion on teak decks. If they haven't gone off yet, they look nice and offer the best nonskid surface ever developed. However, if the bungs are popping, the fasteners are weeping, and the planks are too thin to sand another time, replacing them is an expensive proposition. Even just removing them and switching to a fiberglass or a synthetic nonskid surface like Treadmaster is costly and a lot of work. Later in the production run Ta Shing went with textured nonskid decks and cabintops. That of course didn't mean these models were low maintenance, there's still plenty of teak to keep you busy. The hull and deck are joined chemically and mechanically with stainless bolts. The teak caprail covers the joint. Although some older boats featured solid teak staved bulkheads, most Baba 30s have teak-faced plywood bulkheads, which are preferred. There is a lot of solid teak below and the overall joinerwork is superb. The internal ballast consists of a single cast iron ingot placed in the keel cavity and glassed over. The bowsprit is robustly constructed of laminated wood and anchored by an impressive samson post.

What to look for

Baba 30s demand steady maintenance. If the external teak is not kept up the boat can look shoddy. Conversely, an investment of time and sandpaper can make the boat look stunning again. The basic construction was first rate, and for the most part the boats have held up very well, especially considering many have completed extensive cruises. Naturally there are certain items to watch for when purchasing a Baba 30. As noted above, early boats often came with wooden spars. I'd look for a boat with an aluminum mast and boom. If you need to replace a wooden spar contact Forespar; they built most of the later aluminum masts. In a perfect world I'd also look for a model without teak decks. However, that will limit your choices. Other documented problems concern the fuel and water tanks. The fuel tank was black iron, and although diesel is a wonderful lubricate, these tanks do rust because they are situated in the bilge and the Baba 30 bilge drainage system is not the best. Water tanks were often an inferior stainless steel and should be checked as well. Replacing the tanks is a big job that usually requires cabin sole surgery. Naturally, all age-related items should be inspected carefully, including the standing and running rigging. The chainplates deserve close scrutiny as they're prone to crevice corrosion and there have been some documented failures. The Baba owners' Web site, www.babaowners.org , offers maintenance tips and other more involved retrofit suggestions.

The cockpit of the Baba is designed for offshore sailing as defined in the 1970s. Translation: It's cramped and uncomfortable but offers little volume for water to accumulate should a wave crash aboard. This is a tradeoff you just have to live with and try to make things better with cockpit cushions. Steering can be either tiller or wheel. I prefer the tiller for simplicity and because it occupies less space, especially in port when it can be pushed aft out of the way. However, because the Baba 30 can carry a lot of sail in a blow, it can also develop biceps-building weather helm and that gets tiring with a tiller. Like any serious cruising boat, reliable self-steering is vitally important. The canoe stern is well suited for fitting a wind vane. There is a stout bridgedeck and I like the teak doors that are always ready to close if things turn snotty. The deck feels secure as you make your way forward. The small bulwark, well-supported stanchions and lifelines and a long teak grabrail combine to give you something to lean on when you leave the cockpit. The headsail lead tracks are mounted on the side decks while the staysail track is on the coachroof. There's plenty of clutter on deck, including a large wooden hatch forward, a lovely butterfly hatch over the saloon, dorade vent guards and other assorted bits and pieces. But that's part of the charm too. You don't choose a Baba 30 if you're looking for a sleek, modern deck profile. The mainsheet traveler is forward of the companionway. Some boats will have sail controls led aft, which is convenient if not wildly efficient.

While the layout is predictable, the workmanship is remarkable. The interior fairly drips with teak. White mica surfaces in the galley are about the only areas below that are not finished in teak. It's impressive how well many of the 30s still look. This is a testament to excellent original construction and to building boats that didn't leak. Nothing spoils a handsome teak interior faster than leaky decks and overhead fittings. While the interior is a bit dark by today's standards, it's also warm and inviting in colder climates. There's good ventilation provided by two huge overhead hatches and opening bronze portlights. The layout features a U-shaped galley to port including double stainless sinks, a full-sized stove and oven and ample storage. This is a galley more likely found aboard a 36-foot cruiser. Opposite is a quarterberth that forms the seat for the nav station. This berth usually turns into a storage bin. The chart table is also well-sized with a couple of shelves above. The electrical panel is positioned so that it is easy to accidently trip breakers when seated at the nav station, but this is easily corrected. There's also a draining wet locker to starboard of the companionway. Later boats featured a bulkhead-mounted fold-up table in the saloon, freeing up valuable space. Some early boats had fixed tables. The port settee makes the best sea berth and there are lockers and bins above each. Some boats will have retrofitted mica surfaces around the portlights, a practical move that brightens the boat. There are stout overhead grabrails throughout. The head is forward to starboard and includes a shower sump. The V-berth is spacious with lockers below and louvered shelves to port and starboard.

Ta Shing used a variety of engines during its seven-year production of the Baba 30, including Volvo, Westerbeke and Yanmar. The last engine, the Yanmar 3GMF 27-horsepower is probably the best, at least it's less expensive to maintain. Buying parts for old Volvos and Westerbekes can break your heart. I know, I've owned both. Access is from the behind the companionway steps, and it helps to be small and nimble when it's a time to work on the engine. The Baba 30 performs surprisingly well under power, at least in forward, with owners mentioning 6 knots as comfortable cruising speed. The fuel tank holds 40 gallons. If it's the original tank, it is baffled and has a large inspection plate, allowing you to peer in and see if the external corrosion has reached the inside of the tank.

The Baba 30 won't win many races but it will carry you across an ocean safely and, considering it's just 30 feet, in relative comfort. The boat is at its best on a reach, and can carry full sail up to around 20 knots. Sail handling depends on how the boat is set up. If you have a genoa forward, you'll use the staysail less than if you are using the working yankee. Most Baba 30 owners seem to have opted for furling genoas. By the way, a partially furled genoa raises the center of effort making them quasi-yankee-like. On a deep reach, some owners prefer a reacher, others a cruising spinnaker, and others a poled out genoa. For an ocean crossing I'd opt for a lightweight reacher for light winds and a robust genoa that can ride poled out day and after day withstanding stiff trade winds and putting miles below the keel.

Sailing upwind, the Baba 30 becomes more efficient as the wind pipes up. Owners report that it becomes necessary to reef the main when the wind pipes up to 20 knots when working headsails are flying, and a bit earlier with a genoa. The main is best trimmed with the traveler when sailing to weather, to balance the natural weather helm. In heavy air, the Baba 30 handles well with a double-reefed main and staysail. The hull shape is well suited for heaving-to and this should be your first option when things get ugly.

The Baba 30 is a capable, high-quality cruising boat. Yes, it's on the small side, but that also makes it affordable. You can find a nice Baba 30 in the $60,000 range, and when you compare other cruising boats available for the same dollars the value becomes apparent. Plus, it's nice to have other sailors ooh and ahh every time you pull into a new harbor.

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Bluewater Sailboat – Baba 35

Also called: flying dutchman 35, fd35, ta shing 35.

This classically designed full-keel double ender by Robert H. Perry’s design team originally went by the name Flying Dutchman 35, but it is now more commonly referred to as the Bluewater Sailboat Baba 35. One of Perry’s most attractive double-enders, it has exquisitely proportioned lines that make many people fall in love with it.

In terms of both size and flavor, she falls between the three Baba boats. The Baba 40 serves the role of the swift and opulent traveler, while the Baba 30, is the chubby go-anywhere liveaboard. Ta Shing, Taiwan’s top boatyard from the 1970s to 1980s, is the maker of all of these vessels. They have established a solid reputation for decency at sea, sturdy construction, and some of the highest-quality interiors available aboard cruising yachts even today.

Baba 35

  • LOD: 34′ 11″
  • LWL: 29′ 8″
  • Beam: 11′ 2″
  • Draft: 5′ 6″
  • Displacement: 21,140 lbs.**
  • Ballast: 8,000 lbs.
  • Sail Area: 716 sq. ft.
  • Engine: Yanmar 33 hp
  • Fuel: 75 US Gal.
  • Water: 100 US. Gal.
  • Designer: Robert H. Perry
  • Builder: Ta Shing, Taiwan
  • First Introduced: 1979
  • Year Ended: 1986
  • Total Built: 75
  • Also Known As: Flying Dutchman 35, FD35, Ta Shing 35
  • ** Owners report their boats weigh well in excess of 28,000 lbs. in cruising trim. Both Perry and Tim Ellis report the boats came in on weight ex-factory.

Bob Berg, who created the Baba series of boats, was a partner in the Flying Dutchman boat dealership on the West Coast at the time. Berg was the first to see the possibilities in a small Taiwanese yard called Shing Sheng, which had transitioned from building fishing boats to producing yachts with a half-tonner for the Japanese market. Although the boat had some success, happily, this wasn’t the case when Shing Sheng began building Berg’s Baba 30. The boats were constructed with remarkable quality, and Perry’s concept was a success.

Due to this success, the little boatyard was able to ramp up operations in 1979 and change its name to Ta Shing while also acquiring new, purpose-built facilities. In order to compete with his earlier Tayana 37 design, which was selling in significant quantities, Berg approached Perry at this time. Strangely, this new commission was given the Flying Dutchman 35 designation rather than Baba 35. The term “Baba 35” does appear in later promotional materials, and it is this name that has gained popularity.

In the original Shing Sheng workshop, the boat was lofted. Berg’s production manager Tim Ellis says, “The flat part of the stem did not blend perfectly with the pointed part of the stem beneath it, which was one particular problem with the lines. After carefully examining the lines and offsets, choose to add a chine to the stem’s intersection with the flat. It provides the bow a distinctive aspect.” The project went successfully aside from this and a trim issue that required Perry to make a change to fix a significant list.

A few pilothouse versions of the well-liked aft cockpit configuration were also constructed, and Perry continues to appreciate them. The Baba 40 Pilothouse incorporated a lot of the lessons learned while creating the Baba 35 Pilothouse. It is estimated that 75 boats, including 7 pilothouses, were built in all. In 1986, production was stopped. There is a hull number gap between 51 and 100, inclusive, and the hull numbers range from 002 to 126.

The Tayana 37, Perry’s most productive design in terms of production numbers, and the Baba 35 have certain similarities. In essence, her hull form represents a progression in the same direction. With the Tayana 37, Perry gave the full-keeled double-ender genre, which dates all the way back to Colin Archer’s lifeboat designs in the late-18th century, some performance. In Perry’s design, the keel and hull were attached as separate, clearly defined surfaces rather than the customary wineglass blend. The forefoot cutaway is mild with a more defined leading edge than the Tayana on the Baba 35, whose keel is still rather full.

The Baba’s deck profile and elegantly proportioned sheerline complement one other beautifully. The cabin house is small, the side decks are spacious, and Perry used a wraparound cockpit coaming from the Hans Christian 34.

The 35 will perform admirably in light air circumstances thanks to the well-canvassed rig, and of course, a cutter rig with a bowsprit is required for this sort of boat. The author of Yacht Design Perry claims that the initial tall rig might have been too large for some cruising regions, but he did have the opportunity to create a smaller rig for later boats that might be better all-around.

The outstanding interior quality is arguably the most noteworthy aspect. Ta Shing’s master joinery work and Berg’s own interior design skills produced a powerful combination. Berg was renowned for making painstaking efforts to squeeze space out of every available place. The Baba 35’s internal area is more comparable to many 40-foot yachts.

Key aspects of the interior layout offered alternatives. A double or a v-berth could be found in the forepeak, and the saloon had either straight couches with drop-leaf tables or couches with a L form that wrapped around the table on one side. Either a sea-going quarter berth or a sizable hanging locker were available further aft to starboard.

The galley, which is in the shape of a U, is to port and is the envy of larger vessels. The boat’s essential components are all conveniently accessible, allowing for good serviceability and maintenance.

Owners claim that interior modifications started around 1983. These adjustments included moving the head from port to starboard and installing a teak enclosure around the mast on all boats. Diagonally positioned galley sinks also allowed for greater cabinet space. These adjustments included modest finishing improvements like less teak in the head and a switch from the original rubbed oil finish to a lighter polyurethane finish on internal wood.

Performance

Seagoing comfort ranks highly on the list of benefits at average cruising trim, which weighs more than 28,000 lbs in a full keel displacement hull. The hull is initially supple before becoming stiffer at about 20 degrees of heel; this supple early heel tends to help the ride be mild and sea-friendly. For a full keel boat, she does not hobbyhorse much until the ends have been loaded and are well balanced in most situations.

Owners note that their boats are faster than they would anticipate despite having a large displacement. In open sea circumstances, they are capable of outsailing lighter, bigger boats on all points of sail. Although a reach is where the Bluewater Sailboat Baba 35 performs best, it also performs admirably close to the wind and noticeably takes away little leeway.

The boat sails best with a Yankee plus staysail combination, and in moderate winds, a cruising spinnaker is more practical than a big genoa. The Baba 35 comes into its own when the waves increase; in a storm, her displacement and reasonably full keel enable heaving-to in a relatively high degree of comfort. In a typical trade wind day, expect around 130 miles of sailing.

Quick guide

Have your surveyor inspect elements like chainplates and portions of balsa coring for rot, as is common with many boats older than 25 years. On most vessels, the original teak decks are still in good condition. Due to their high construction quality, the Baba 35s have aged well overall, better than other boats from this era. The majority of owners have changed the in-bilge installed mild steel fuel tanks because they have been shown to be prone to corrosion. Resale value has remained high, as it has for all boats from Ta Shing.

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The Baba 30 is a 29.75ft cutter designed by Robert Perry and built in fiberglass by Ta Shing Yacht Building Ltd. between 1976 and 1986.

170 units have been built..

The Baba 30 is a heavy sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is very stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat. The fuel capacity is originally small. There is a short water supply range.

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Model Baba 30
Length 29.75 ft
Beam 10.25 ft
Draft 4.75 ft
Country Taiwan (Asia)
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Sail area / displ. 15.03
Ballast / displ. 40 %
Displ. / length 379.46
Comfort ratio 33.38
Capsize 1.77
Hull type Monohull long keel
Construction Fiberglass
Waterline length 24.50 ft
Maximum draft 4.75 ft
Displacement 12500 lbs
Ballast 5000 lbs
Hull speed 6.63 knots

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Rigging Cutter
Sail area (100%) 504 sq.ft
Air draft 0 ft ??
Sail area fore 294.28 sq.ft
Sail area main 210 sq.ft
I 39.50 ft
J 14.90 ft
P 35 ft
E 12 ft
Nb engines 1
Total power 23 HP
Fuel capacity 35 gals

Accommodations

Water capacity 80 gals
Headroom 0 ft
Nb of cabins 0
Nb of berths 0
Nb heads 0

Builder data

Builder Ta Shing Yacht Building Ltd.
Designer Robert Perry
First built 1976
Last built 1986
Number built 170

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For sailors interested in baba, panda, and tashiba sailboats, standard features and equipment, hull and deck.

  • Hand laminated FRP hull designed to meet or exceed Lloyds specifications. Lloyd certificate available at additional cost.
  • Hand laminated FRP and end-grain wood sandwich construction deck and cabin.
  • Textured non-skid surfaces on deck flats and cabin top. Teak overlay on cockpit seating area.
  • Hull-to-deck joint chemically bonded, fastened with stainless steel bolts, cosmetically finished with teak caprail fastened with stainless steel bolts.
  • Internal cast iron single-ingot ballast, glassed over to reinforce hull section.
  • Laminated bowsprit with double anchor rollers.

Hardware and Equipment

  • Aluminum spar set and stainless steel standing rigging to designer’s specifications.
  • Yacht braid running rigging and pre-stretched yacht braid halyards with snap shackles.
  • Jiffy reefing, outhaul, and topping lift.
  • Primaries – 2 #30C
  • Secondaries – 2 #8C
  • Mainsheet – 1 #24C
  • Main halyard – 1 #16C
  • Yankee halyard – 1 #16C
  • Staysail halyard – 1 #8C
  • Roller bearing mainsheet traveler.
  • Aluminum Genoa and staysail sheet tracks.
  • Schaefer blocks for all running rigging.
  • Double rail stainless steel bow and stern pulpits.
  • Double lifelines with opening gates P & S.
  • All deck hardware thru-bolted with stainless steel backing plates.
  • Tiller steering, laminated hardwood tiller handle.
  • Bronze lever-action seacocks.
  • Stainless steel deck pipe to chain locker.
  • Sampson post, six hawse fairleads and mooring cleats.
  • Large teak double-opening skylight over main salon.
  • Teak opening hatch at forward end of cabin.

Ten bronze opening ports with stainless steel exterior trim rings.

  • Two forward dorade vents.
  • Teak caprail, cockpit coaming and cabin accent trim, cockpit and bow well gratings.
  • One large, deep cockpit locker.
  • Louvered teak companionway doors and drop boards.
  • Vented cockpit propane locker for one 5gallon bottle.
  • Mainsail with two reef rows and mainsail cover.
  • Yankee jib with ready bag.
  • Staysail with ready bag.

Tankage and Machinery

  • 27 hp Yanmar three cylinder FWC marine diesel engine.
  • 40 gallon baffled black iron fuel tank with large inspection port.
  • 90 gallons fresh water in two baffled stainless steel tanks with large inspection ports.
  • Fresh water hand or foot pumps in galley and head.
  • Enclosed marine head with holding tank and “Y” valve.
  • Two bilge pumps (manual and 12 volt electric).
  • 12 volt and 110 volt electrical systems with circuit breaker panel and shore power connection.
  • 100 A/H heavy duty marine battery with 4-way switch.
  • Navigation lights to International Rules.
  • Mast anchor and foredeck lights.
  • Electrical bonding system to chainplates, tanks, thru-hulls, etc.
  • Choice of sleeping accommodations for four or five.
  • Large double berth forward with lockers and drawers below, louvered lockers and shelves P & S or …
  • Traditional V-berth with filler, lockers below and louvered lockers and shelves P & S.
  • Large hanging locker, port forward with louvered door.
  • Highest quality teak veneer interior bulkheads.
  • Enclosed head with Formica interior bulkheads, teak louvered locker and mirror, sink and Formica counter top. Shower sump & grating.
  • P & S settee/berths with louvered lockers, shelves, and seatback lockers.
  • Bulkhead-mounted fold-down teak dropleaf table.
  • Teak overhead grabrails.
  • Teak/lightwood cabin sole.
  • Extremely efficient galley arrangement with large well insulated top loading ice box; large asbestos/stainless steel lined stove area; stainless steel sinks with covers; easily cleaned Formica counter tops; and numerous drawers, lockers, and shelves throughout the galley area.
  • Navigation station located starboard aft, with hinged chart table storage, shelves, and lockers.
  • Drained wet locker at companionway, starboard.
  • Traditional quarterberth aft with storage below, or ….
  • Large louvered storage locker aft of navigation seat, plus additional cockpit locker.
  • 4″ foam, vinyl cushions.
  • Spruce battening on exposed hull areas within cabin.

The specification sheet (shown above) is from the 1985-1986 era Baba 30s.  Several variations and options were found on Babas throughout their life cycle including:

  • Wooden spars instead of aluminum were standard on earlier models.
  • Wheel steering was frequently substituted for tiller.
  • Lapstrakes were all-teak instead of fiberglass inlays in later models.
  • Volvo and Perkins diesels were used in earlier models.
  • Salon tables were sometimes fixed, floor-mounted instead of bulkhead-mounted.
  • Decks were often teak, others were textured, non-skid.
  • Older models had solid teak staves instead of veneer bulkheads.
  • Options included marble vanity tops, and prisms in foredeck.

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With canoe stern and cutaway full keel this Bob Perry design has won acclaim as one of the most desirable blue water pocket cruisers. She was built in the Ta-Shing boat yard in Taiwan which is one of the top boat building facilities in the world. They currently make Nordhavens.  In the past six years the owner to the Baba 30 has sailed the Caribbean along Central America coasts, the Leewards Islands down to Trinidad, up to chain to the Virgin Islands, over to Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, thru the Bahamas and back to Florida.  The Yanmar 3YM30 (870 hrs) was new in 2008, new aluminum fuel tank and 2 stainless water tanks in 2009, new Ocean Breeze AC installed in 2010, has Norcold refrigeration that runs on 12VDC or 110VAC and lots more.

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1981 Baba 30 cutter

Engine Brand: Yanmar

Model: 3YM30 Fresh Water Cooled new in 2008

Total Power: 29 HP

Transmission:  Kanzaki KM2P-1

Propeller:  3 Blade Bronze 14"

PSI Dripless Shaft Log

Cruise: 6 knots at 2800 rpm, 5.5 knots at 2200, 

Fuel Consumption: 1/3 GPM at 2000 rpm, 1 GPH at 3000 rpm

LOA: 34.5 feet

LOD: 29'11"

LWL: 24'6"

Beam: 10'3"

Draft: 4'9" Modified Full w/rudder hung on keel w/protected propeller

Displacement: 12,500 lbs

Ballast: 5,000 lbs

FUEL: New 25 Gallon Aluminum Tank in 2009

WATER: 2 stainless tanks total 80 gallons (60/20) 

HOLDING: 13 Gallon w/ Y Valve

Forward V berth sleeps two

Starboard Settee sleeps one

Ocean Breeze AC w/heat coil new in 2010

Diesel or Kerosene Heater

Full Head and shower with hot and cold pressurized water

Marble counter w/stainless sink in head

6 Gal hot water heater new in 2010

Teak and Holley sole

Teak Bulkheads

Drop down dinette table

5 over head lights / 4 LED reading lights

9 bronzed opening ports

2 hatches w/ one butterfly in salon

2 dorages for added ventilation

Norcold Refrigeration runs both 12 VDC or 110VAC

Seaward 3 burner propane stove w/oven 

Dual Stainless Sinks

Pressurized Hot and Cold Water

Storage with drawers and shelves

Emerson Microwave Oven

Garmin 498C GPS Chartplotter at Helm in Pod

SE Florida and Bahamas chip

Simrad AP16 Auto Pilot w/AC10 AP computor and JEFA15 Drive

Standard Horizon Quest + VHF w/DSC at Nav Station

RAM Mike at Helm

Furuno GPS Navigator @ Nav Station

Raytheion R10 Radar at Nav Station

15" LCD Flat Panel TV on swivel bracket in Salon

Magnavox DVD Player

Dual CD/AM/FM Stereo Receiver w/speakers

 Ritchie 5" compass at helm

110 VAC Shore Power connection

12 VDC and 110VAC control panel

Four 6 volt Deep Cycle House Batteries for House Bank

One Group 31 Starting Battery

Promarine 10A Charger 2 bank

Two 80W Solar Panels w/Zantrex C35 amp controller

Jabsco Pump deep in bilge

Rule 80 GPH for shallow bilge

Battened Main Sail w/2 reefing points

135% Head Sail on Shaefer 2100 roller furler

Hank on yankee cut staysail

Hank on storm staysail

Spinnaker w/ ATN Sock and Pole

Two Barient #23 Self Tailing winches for jib sheets

One Barient #19 Self Tailing winch for Main

One #10 winch on boom for reefing

Beautiful Teak seating throughout

Stainless framed Dodger new in 2008

Stainless framed Bimini w/ side curtains new in 2008

Lifelines new in 2012

Weather clothes around cockpit

Magma Propane Grill off Stern Rail

Pedestal Wheel Steering w/Captains wheel

Autopilot, GPS and RAM mike on Helm

Henderson Manual Bilge Pump

Dual Anchor Roller

Two 35 lb Delta Anchors

Sampson Post

300 feet 3/8 chain (primary)

200 feet 3/8 chain (secondary)

Bronze manual windlass

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30' Ta Shing Baba 30

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1977 30' ta shing baba 30 | 30 ft., us$ 35,000   /  price drop: us$7,000, description.

Robert Perry, the designer of this fine yacht, is one of the best known and most prolific American designers and has become one of the leaders of performance oriented cruising yachts. Built by Ta Shing, the Baba 30 was the first boat they built. Ta Shing was a builder of local fishing boats and has become one of the world’s finest yacht builders. The Baba 30 is a cutter rig with a canoe stern and bow sprit. Considered a great offshore boat for the solo skipper, she sleeps 4 in a lush double cabin with 6’4” headroom. Laden with teak, the traditionalist loves this boat and they love the increased displacement for offshore conditions.

A true blue water cruiser, capable of world voyaging. Freyja is clean, rugged, very well equipped and maintained and is a real head-turner. Current owners are moving to a larger Perry-designed yacht to accomodate a growing family on cruises, but have taken great care of her and will miss her. Be sure to click on full specs to fall in love with this gem of a Baba!!!

Located right here in the heart of paradise and home to some of the world’s most renowned cruising grounds, La Paz, Mexico, the gateway to the Sea of Cortez. Dozens of beautiful anchorages, many with white sand beaches and all with crystal clear warm waters teaming with exotic sea life.

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  • La Paz, BCS, Mexico

The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without notice.

Financial and titling transactions are conducted in the US or Canada by licensed agents. An offshore purchase means great savings and the process is more hassle-free than you may think! Call for details.

Full Specifications

Speed & distance.

Cruising Speed 4.5kn
Max Speed 6.7kn
Range 400nm
Length Overall 30ft
Beam 10.25ft
Cabin Headroom 6.33ft
Length at Waterline 25ft
Fresh Water Tank 2 X 40 Gal ()
Fuel Tank 1 X 35 Gal ()
Holding Tank 1 X 10 Gal ()
Engine Make Volvo Penta
Engine Model MDIIC
Total Power 23hp
Engine Hours 1450
Engine Type Inboard
Fuel Type Diesel
Propeller Type 3 Blade
Propeller Material Bronze

Accommodations

John Kretschmer writing for Sailing Magazine commented, "it's a big boat trapped in a short body" and certainly the displacement and ballast numbers are more akin to boats in the 35ft range. The cockpit is small, giving up most of the space to an expansive interior boasting 6' 4" of headroom. The layout down below has blue water in mind; there's a seagoing berth and chart table combo on the starboard quarter and a large U-shaped seagoing galley to port. Two additional berths are provided in the saloon by way of settees either side of the saloon table. The table can fold away opening up the saloon, as per Perry's original plans. The forward cabin has a V-berth. The quality of workmanship is superb and teak is abundantly used.

  • REFRIGERATION: Adler-Barbour 12 V watercooled
  • WATER SYSTEM: Pressure
  • WATER HEATER: On Demand
  • STOVE: Gimballed, 2-burner propane w/oven
  • SINK: Double SS

Navigation and electronics

  • SSB: Icom IC-M710
  • SSB TUNER: Icom AT-130
  • RADAR: B+G Halo 20+ 24 mile range (new 2022)
  • VHF: Icom IC-M125
  • VHF #2: West Marine VHF 585
  • GPS: B+G Zeus 3S with Wi-Fi to phone or tablet (new 2022)
  • GPS #2: Vesper XB 8000 (new 2022)
  • AIS RECEIVER: Vesper Transponder (new 2022)
  • STEREO: SDX Bluetooth
  • DEPTH SOUNDER: B+G Forward Scan (new 2022)
  • WIND SPEED / DIRECTION: B+G Wireless (new 2022)
  • AUTOPILOT: Navico Wheel Pilot
  • PLOTTER: B+G Zeus 3S with Wi-Fi to phone or tablet (new 2022)
  • COMPASS: Danforth 8 in.
  • SATELLITE NAVIGATION: Yes
  • OTHERS: NMEA 2000 Backbone Vesper XB8000 communications hub
  • BATTERIES: Four 6V Deep cycle
  • BATTERY MONITOR: Link 2000-R
  • BATTERY SWITCH: Yes
  • ALTERNATOR: Powerline 100 amp
  • INVERTER: Krieger 1100 W, new 2022
  • AC VOLTAGES: 110V
  • DC VOLTAGES: 12V
  • SOLAR PANELS: Two 80 W Siemens
  • SMART REG: Yes
  • OTHER: LED interior lighting Dockside electrical cable Four electric fans
  • BILGE PUMP: 2 auto, 1 manual
  • RAW WATER SEA STRAINER: Yes
  • FIRE EXTINGUISHING: 2 Manual
  • FUEL FILTERS: 2 Racor 500
  • FUEL SHUT OFF: Stove, water heater and engine
  • HEAD TYPE: Overboard
  • HOLDING TANK: 10 gal. manual
  • HEATER: Shipmate
  • STEERING: Wheel, manual
  • WINDVANE: Scanmar Autohelm
  • OTHER: Abundant inventory of engine and electrical spares and macerator pump

Deck and hull

  • ANCHOR: 45 lbs. Bruce with 170' x 3/8" galvanized chain and 250' 3/4" nylon rope
  • ANCHOR 2: 15 lbs. Danforth (stern) with 65' x 3/8" chain
  • WINDLASS: Muir elec/manual
  • DINGHY: 9 ft. West and 8 HP Tohatsu (overhauled July 2022)
  • BOW ROLLERS: Double
  • NAV LIGHTS: Tri-color
  • SPREADER LIGHTS: Yes
  • DECK LIGHTS: Yes
  • LIFELINES: Yes
  • LADDER: Boarding and swim
  • DECK MATERIAL : Teak
  • BOW PULPIT: Yes
  • COVERS: Dodger, full Sunbrella cockpit enclosure and bug screens for all openings, winter cover
  • OTHER : 2 Solid brass Dorades, 3 belaying pins on each side Custom SS racks for jerry cans, port & stbd
  • #1 GENOA: Yes
  • STAYSAIL: Yes
  • YANKEE: Yes
  • TYPES OF SAILS: Cruise equipped, Dacron. In very good condition
  • TRAVELER: Schaefer
  • ROLLER FURL: Profurl, jib
  • WINCHES: Two Barlow 24 ST One Barlow 20 Two Barlow 15 on mast / three on cabintop
  • PREVENTER / BOOM BRAKE: Yes
  • MAST: Aluminum, deck stepped, compresion post All mast base bolts replaced July 2022
  • STANDING RIGGGING: Wire, SS. All new in 2017 (Sta-Lock) Extra Sta-Lock spare fittings and 1 x 19 SS wire
  • LINES LED AFT: Some
  • LIFEJACKETS: 2
  • LIFESLING: 1
  • LIFE RINGS: Horseshoe
  • LIFERAFT: Avon Offshore 4-person
  • JACKLINES: Yes
  • EPIRB: ACR Satellite 406
  • FLARES: Yes

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La Paz Yachts

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  • La Paz, BCS, MX 23000

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1977 Baba 30

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Seller's Description

1977 Ta Shing Baba 30 Robert Perry, the designer of this fine yacht, is one of the best-known and most prolific American designers and has become one of the leaders of performance oriented cruising yachts. Built by Ta Shing, the Baba 30 was the first boat they built. Ta Shing was a builder of local fishing boats and has become one of the worlds finest yacht builders. The Baba 30 is a cutter rig with a canoe stern and bow sprit. Considered a great offshore boat for the solo skipper, she sleeps 4 in a lush double cabin with 64 headroom. Laden with teak, the traditionalist loves this boat and they love the increased displacement for offshore conditions.

A true blue water cruiser, capable of world voyaging. Ochento is rugged and well equipped. We are selling because of health and she is ready for someone to love her as much as we have.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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