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16-03-2008, 15:03  
a first for cruising. A major concern is staying conscious, so I have been looking at early to mid 80's hunters, catamarans, etc. between 25'-30'. I came across an S2 27' that seemed to be in great shape. Much of the was just redone and the showed very few signs of wear and tear. Also, all of the and seemed almost brand new. The guy selling it said he recommends that anyone getting a boat gets a done (something I already knew), and said he has no doubt that this boat would show to be in great condition.

Anyways, my question is more about peoples experience with the S2 27'. Has anyone had one? Did they enjoy it? Would they recommend it? Any help or would really be appreciated!

Thanks,
Chris
16-03-2008, 16:18  
, the 27 was a G&S design, not as well known as the 26 but a good looking boat that quickly. Any of the series, like the 27, were well built and good sailors.
16-03-2008, 17:38  
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30. It was well-built from my personal ; I was told that the company morphed over to sailboats after producing hulls. They quit after a few years, but again, I was told what they produced was high-quality. Good luck!
16-03-2008, 17:58  
had the 30. Club raced it every week for a decade of more and it was in great shape. Chainplates were beefy, construction seemed solid. All in all a great (and fast) boat to use on the lakes.
16-03-2008, 19:15  
Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch
to AMF the Slicker's started S2 yachts in Michigan. S2 is alive and well making Tiara yachts and Pursuit. They no longer build sailboats. Everything that I have ever heard about S2 sailboats was quite good. If the says it is a good boat ,and you like it ,I would not be afraid to buy it.
17-03-2008, 01:50  
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
, and a balsa cored deck. They were avail;able in both deep & shoal versions.
I've heard the joke that "S2" stood for "slowly sideways", referring to the mediocre performance of the early (1970s) models.
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17-03-2008, 07:46  
Boat: Maxim 380
are built very strong and the facility was state of the art. The performance of my was exceptional and I believe that if the 27 wasn't a G&S design it was strongly influenced by the boats and most likely a strong performer. One thing I would check thoroughly (if it is balsa cored) is the below the waterline. All my boats where from 82-83 and 2 out of the 3 had localized issues with the cored bottom. This was when they first started using the balsa coring and maybe hadn’t figured it all out yet (J boats had similar problems when they started). Later boats had fewer problems as far as I know (I was in the S2 hot-bed by , MI where they were built). I believe that was one of the last boats they introduced before they ceased building sailboats to concentrate on the Tiara line of powerboats.
17-03-2008, 09:23  
17-03-2008, 10:58  
. I guess it was out of the for a year while the owner was it up and working on it. As for more serious problems that require more careful to find, I will mostly leave that up to a professional .

Thanks for everyones feedback. If anyone knows anything else about these boats I'd appreciate it!

Chris
12-05-2009, 06:59  
on the hull was some of the best I've seen. Our hull was balsa-cored, I believe (though I'm not positive). Most S2s you look at these days have exceptionally fair hulls 20+ years later. Crazing on the decks was also acceptable for boats of this age. She was a little , but very fast (great phrf racer) and could handle rough fairly well. We sailed ours in waters between bllock island and with little trouble. The as you've probably discovered is quite spacious for a 27' boat. Ours had a 1cyl which was a little underpowered but was sufficient. The transom-mounted was a liittle ugly, but made for a very responsive boat that could turn on a dime and handled well in reverse under . Definitely a boat worth taking a look at.
 
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Hull Type: Fin w/transom hung rudder Rigging Type: Masthead Sloop LOA: 26.58 ft LWL: 23.33 ft Beam: 9.25 ft Displacement: 5,000 lb Ballast: 2,100 lb

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Any S2 27 owners out there? That is - owners of the S2 27 "Performance Cruiser" built from '85-'87. I'm looking to get a small class association started and website. If interested, PM me offline. Rick S2 27 US 40521  

Rick, Now that you have had your 27 a while, what is your overall impression of the 27? Any cored hull issues? Thanks.  

See below - copied from my post on the sailboat owners.com website in November. BTW- no issues so far with cored hull - was surveyed before purchase. Also, S2 is known for good build quality and layup (certainly their Tiara powerboats are known) ####### Have had the 27 for one season. Also, have spoken to another S2 27 owner, and have looked at some posts in other sites. Here is more or less my comments in random order...overall i am happy with the boat. 1) is a relatively stiff boat that sails well to windward - can point very well. not too bad in lighter air. 2) not that fast downwind for some reason. need to fly the chute to get speed. 3) thoughtful placement (for the most part) of exterior sail handing gear, halyards, sheets, etc. 4) quality materials and very good build quality thruout - which is typical of S2/Tiara sail and powerboats. 5) the 1987 has a redesigned interior which seems better than the 85-86 6) is a mainsail driven boat - you can sail nicely with main alone - although the stock main has too much roach and gets caught on the backstay easily in light air. 7) the inboard yanmar 9hp is underpowered. in any seaway or chop or wind or tide, you will be lucky to get her over 4-4.5 knots - in low wind with current - and a clean bottom and prop with 6 people, I struggled to get over 5 knots - really needs a 12-13 hp motor. 8) you need to check the keel/blige area - some reports of cracking of inner liner to hull - but only in an area where there was no use of fiberglass cloth - so likely it is cosmetic. 9) the bilge design is not very good - way to shallow and no real way to place a pump effectively. 10) handles on a dime - it has a real tight turn radius and the rudder is well balanced. 11) these boats have a cored hull (and deck)- some people are not bothered by this - so you need to have a GOOD surveyor do a GOOD moisture check. 12) check chainplate areas - are prone to leaking (like most boats....) the spinnaker downhaul block also can leak - need to check that area too 13) generally she likes to sail in 10-15 knots with 3-4 people on board. since she's lighter than most 27 footers (5K lbs vs. 6-7 lbs) she'll start to heel more quickly in heavier air. 14) the life line stanchions are strange - the uprights mount such that you have to remove the base in order to remove the upright - which is not a good design in my mind. 15)i am thinking that the boat would motor better with a fixed 2-blade prop - but would suffer speed under sail 16) if you plan to race her - i think she suffers from a PHRF rating that is too low - the boat has a SA/D of 17 vs. C&C 27 MkV which has a 19-20 SA/D - yet the rating is the same - the boat is more a true "performace cruiser" than racer cruiser. 17) the location of traveller in middle of cockit is not great - you get your shins bruised...  

Rick, Since I don't have 10 postings yet, I can't PM you, but I wondered if you were able to get your class association off the ground. Anyone else have information on such an owners group?  

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also an S2 27 owner I am also too recent a member to pm Rick. I acquired my S2 27 this summer and have enjoyed her thoroughly. Down to my last two weeks of the season on the Chesapeake... Please post any progress, Thanks.  

BobS2 said: I am also too recent a member to pm Rick. I acquired my S2 27 this summer and have enjoyed her thoroughly. Down to my last two weeks of the season on the Chesapeake... Please post any progress, Thanks. Click to expand...

Hull number Hull #50. Officially a 1986 boat, but it must be early '86 as the serial number indicates the hull being laid up in 1985. I'm a happy owner although I'd agree the <10hp diesel is a bit wimpy for a tough current in some inlet. The only problem I have is an odor issue. Apparently the P.O. left the holding tank full for several years of yard storage. I was told the hoses can get saturated, and I tried the wipe-with-a-rag-and-smell test, but didn't get an obvious blast of stink. The tank is pretty well obscured behind bulkheads so off season I guess I'll start pulling components til I get there. It's not a fresh sewage odor. It's just a vague acrid rankness that I can't pinpoint.  

BobS2 said: Hull #50. Officially a 1986 boat, but it must be early '86 as the serial number indicates the hull being laid up in 1985. I'm a happy owner although I'd agree the <10hp diesel is a bit wimpy for a tough current in some inlet. The only problem I have is an odor issue. Apparently the P.O. left the holding tank full for several years of yard storage. I was told the hoses can get saturated, and I tried the wipe-with-a-rag-and-smell test, but didn't get an obvious blast of stink. The tank is pretty well obscured behind bulkheads so off season I guess I'll start pulling components til I get there. It's not a fresh sewage odor. It's just a vague acrid rankness that I can't pinpoint. Click to expand...

Sorry guys - work has left me with not much time to pull together a website. However, I can start a yahoo newsgroup where we can share files, info et al. I will PM each of you individually with my email address so i can gather your email address and add you to the newsgroup. sounds good? Rick  

Thanks for the efforts, a mail group is a good starting point. Wish I had time to do more website stuff too. The main bilge is clean and gets no more than a few drops in heavy rain and the icebox drainage. I hand pump it and soap it out regularly. I did notice a tiny bit or water in the cockpit lockers last weekend though. The engine sump was really nasty when I bought it, I've scraped and cleaned and scraped and cleaned, but it could still be contributing. The water tank has been replaced very recently. Perhaps it had a similar problem as yours! It seems very accessible. I took a quick look this weekend and the waste tank does not appear to be easy to get at. Has anyone re-done their head/hoses/tank on this model?  

S2 27: odors & other info sources? Hmmm though I sent a reply a few days ago, but it's not here... There's rarely any water in the bilge. In a heavy rain, a few drops come down the inside of the mast. And some rain blows in around the hatch boards. I've scrubbed the bilge pockets out in August and besides the cooler drainage there's very little action there. I did see a little water in the cockpit locker last weekend. I re-read the hose saturation test: wet rag in place for some time, then smell. I'll try that later today when I sneak down to the marina to do the winterizing. She's hauled out for the season and flurries are forecast. I'll be replacing the speed log off season. The old unit is dead and I've just had gps speed info to work with. Learning to trim is fascinating and I'd like real water speed info. Besides, I'm about tired of stuffing batteries into and squinting at a handheld! Which brings up the question: where do I find the hull speed for this boat?  

BobS2 said: Hmmm though I sent a reply a few days ago, but it's not here... There's rarely any water in the bilge. In a heavy rain, a few drops come down the inside of the mast. And some rain blows in around the hatch boards. I've scrubbed the bilge pockets out in August and besides the cooler drainage there's very little action there. I did see a little water in the cockpit locker last weekend. I re-read the hose saturation test: wet rag in place for some time, then smell. I'll try that later today when I sneak down to the marina to do the winterizing. She's hauled out for the season and flurries are forecast. I'll be replacing the speed log off season. The old unit is dead and I've just had gps speed info to work with. Learning to trim is fascinating and I'd like real water speed info. Besides, I'm about tired of stuffing batteries into and squinting at a handheld! Which brings up the question: where do I find the hull speed for this boat? Click to expand...

Third attempt to post a reply.... don't know where they go..... The bilge is clean and gets very little water. The water tank is very recent. I'm suspicious of the engine sump though. It's hard to clean, and was very nasty when I bought her.  

New S2 27 owner Hello All, I just purchased a 1986 S2 27 last fall. I'd like to join your group. Joe  

glad to see some traffic Thanks for the hull speed info, R. I look forward to beating it soon after launch day. That should be early April for me. We just had a freak warm weekend so there was a flock of early birds in the marina. I pulled the head intake thru hull fitting today and was please to find a dry core. I had to look up Lake St. Clair on the map. When is ice-out up there? What's the hull number of your boat? Cabintop or cockpit traveler? I would like to find info from someone who has rigged control lines on the cabintop traveler. Those spring pins are a pain. Thanks  

>>BobS2 wrote: I would like to find info from someone who has rigged control lines on the cabintop traveler. Those spring pins are a pain. I agree that those spring pins are a pain. After I broke my original cabintop Lewmar traveler car and blew out the rubber end cap on the track, I replaced the whole shebang with a Harken traveler with 4:1 purchase control lines. Overall, a much better system than the obsolete Lewmar with the spring pins, but likely a far more beefy system than I really needed. Two downsides for me, so far. First, the profile of the track and the end control is higher, so visibility over the cabintop is reduced. Secondly, the total travel port to starboard is a few inches less, because of the endcontrols and the longer length of the traveler car itself. I *do* like the new system much better tan the old one, however. The control lines are cleated on the end controls, and are easy to use. The lines simply hang down in the companionway.  

good traveller info Thanks, I've seen the Lewmar Ocean size 1 traveller kit advertised. Any opinions? The loss of range is a big consideration. Has anyone considered extending the length of the track a bit? Adding support under the track beyond the width of the hatch cover shell? So far resetting the stock traveller in mid tack has been a bit of an exercise. I can see how an end cap blowout will eventually happen...  

A note for a new traveler... My new Harken traveler does not have pre-drilled holes for mounting. Instead, there is a channel in the track that is designed to take stainless steel slides, whose positions are adjustable left to right. The slides have bolt holes in them. I inserted the bolts into the slides, then I simply slid the slides into the track, aligned the bolts over the old holes, snugged down the traveler (with 3M 4200 beneath and in the holes), and tightened the sucka down. In other words, I didn't have to drill new holes in the storm hood to install the Harken traveler. I did remove the vertical washboard "keepers", which allowed me to slide off the Lexan hatch. I could then access the traveler bolts from the companionway to put on the washers and locknuts without removing the storm hood (which would have been a can 'o worms that I didn't want to open! That would have required lots of rebedding of many bolts.) So my caution is this: if you get a new traveler that is predrilled, make sure that the boltholes line up with the old holes, or you are in for a LOT of additional work. The Harken slide system worked great for this. I hope this is helpful. FWIW.  

excellent info Thanks for the tips! I ordered the Lewmar, which also has a sliding bolt channel in the track. I'll be figuring a way to fabricate some support for the track ends to extend the width of the system to keep from losing too much travel. A block of teak on either side of the hatchcover perhaps. It looks like there's plenty of room. As for bedding, I found a soggy chainplate bulkhead this past weekend... the pre -launch list just got a little longer.  

I just found your threads and thought I'd post: I have owned S2 27 no. 81 for about two years now. Not much to add to the cabin top traveller discussion, except that mine also has the Lewmar cabin top arrangement. I have changed out the cam cleats, as it was already set up with control lines when I purchased the boat. If there is an owners forum dedicated to the S2 27 somewhere, I'd be interested in joining. Thanks.  

Welcome. I have hull #80, build year 1987. I have a question for you. Does your boat have a compression post in the salon? All the literature I've read states that 27s have keel stepped masts, which I am sure the pre-'87 models do. Mine doesn't, however, so I am interested in hearing about your mast configuration.  

Glad to see another S2 27 owner! This thread seems to be about the closest thing to a group I've found. I purchased hull #50 last summer. Found some soggy core in the cabintop, so the new traveller install will coincide with that repair as soon as possible. Where do you sail?  

Bob - a while back I mentioned forming a class assoc, etc. but with so few boat owners, and spread thin geographically, it wasn't financially feasible. next best thing would be a yahoo newsgroup - since we could control access and share information and documents in private. the newsgroup would be easy to set up. if more are interested pls PM me and I'll set up the group in the next few weeks. Rick  

All I just created a yahoo news group, if interested in sharing info and docs - send an email to: s227classassociation "at" yahoogroups "dot" com pls reference the sailnet and your hull # so I can eliminate any spam...  

S2 27 I just found the forum don't know if you still use it. I have an 1986 S2 27 and have owned it for 11 years. I love the boat its been a great boat for the family and I have done a bit of racing as well. Mine is the cruiser version which I have somewhat changed so I could better race. I think I'm either 44 or 72 cannot remember.  

Hello Dreamteam, I do still use this forum, just not too regularly. I have been trying to tune my rig a bit better for racing. Have been experimenting with shroud tension. What type of keel do you have? Mine is the shoul keel. Winter is about to bite us here in MI. I plan to pull the mast on Sunday and pull it out of the water on Monday. Glad you're on the forum. Stay in touch.  

Sail S2 27 I have sailed mostly on a Lake in GA but this last year I move to a lake in SC. I have the standard keel.  

Dreamteam and crescentsail I have slowly pulled together a yahoo newsgroup with a few s2 27 owners. Granted our posting activity has been minimal but we have gathered info on the boat of interest to owners. See my post above if you email to the class association email addres I will give you permission to access the forum.  

Hello Rperret, I can PM you about the class association becuase I have <5 posts, so with this I'll have 4. Sorry to clutter up the new group.  

That should have read can't (not can). So now this will be posting #5 for me. Again I appologize for using up space unneccesarily.  

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Well, sold my Hinterhoeller F3, and looking to down size. Anybody have knowledge/experience owning/crewing on an S2 27? I'm looking  at a 1985 S2 27 deep draft in Pensacola. Read about it and looked at brochure online. Will do some racing, but mostly weekend cruising until retired. Thanks for the help.  

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Is this the one that looked like a 7.9 but was just a tad longer, deep fin keel and slightly less sail plan?  

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Like the S2 7.9, it was designed by Graham &amp; Schlageter for S2 Yachts. The 27 was an entirely new design. The S2 27 has a lot of MORC and 7.9 influence in her hull lines, but with a more freeboard and cruiser intended interior and deck layout. The S2 27 was introduced towards the end of sailboat production at S2, so not a lot of them were built. Very well built and has nice racer/cruiser possibilities though. Good luck!  

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RobbieB said: Is this the one that looked like a 7.9 but was just a tad longer, deep fin keel and slightly less sail plan? Click to expand...
Cheap Beer said: Like the S2 7.9, it was designed by Graham &amp; Schlageter for S2 Yachts. The 27 was an entirely new design. The S2 27 has a lot of MORC and 7.9 influence in her hull lines, but with a more freeboard and cruiser intended interior and deck layout. The S2 27 was introduced towards the end of sailboat production at S2, so not a lot of them were built. Very well built and has nice racer/cruiser possibilities though. Good luck! Click to expand...

Listen to the wife.  

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MikeR80 said: Listen to the wife. Click to expand...

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  • Nov 4, 2020

The 27 looks more like a scaled down 9.1 than an upsized 7.9  

Charsel said: Thanks. I would like the 7.9, but wifey likes this S2 27 because: 6' headroom 4'9" draft It has factory installed A/C It's a nice boat, just about everything rebuilt/replaced 2015 to present. Pics show very clean inside and out. Of course, a survey is in order, and will add asym and folding prop. Looks like it rates 186 PHRF, but I'm not sure. Click to expand...

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The racing S2’s by G&amp;S (10.3, 9.1, 7.9) had balsa cored hulls and decks.  Deck coring was not isolated where gear was mounted, so not unusual to find wet spots, esp near gear under loads.     Not sure if the 27 has cored decks, but I’d guess it does.   Not a deal breaker by any means - just something to be aware of...  

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  • Nov 5, 2020
Crash said: The racing S2’s by G&amp;S (10.3, 9.1, 7.9) had balsa cored hulls and decks.  Deck coring was not isolated where gear was mounted, so not unusual to find wet spots, esp near gear under loads.     Not sure if the 27 has cored decks, but I’d guess it does.   Not a deal breaker by any means - just something to be aware of... Click to expand...
mookiesurfs said: Amen. I buy boats to sail with her. Works amazing. Click to expand...

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Here is some discussion of the S2 27 by owners - from about ten years ago.  https://www.sailnet.com/threads/s2-27-class-association.36424/ With a PHRF of 186 she will not be very quick (my S3 7.9 rates 171).  But I think you are correct that your spouse will like it more than a 7.9  Check all the through deck fittings VERY carefully.  Re-bed them all through epoxy plugs if it has not already been done.  My 7.9 had water intrusion into the deck core at chain plates, stanchions, and cockpit winches.  Had I not done these repairs myself (7.9 is easy to work on deck core from underneath) they would  have easily run to $ 5,000.  Look over the deck very carefully, get a survey, use a moisture meter . .  Don't be starry-eyed like I was - take a cynical friend along to look it over.    

AJ Oliver said: Here is some discussion of the S2 27 by owners - from about ten years ago.  https://www.sailnet.com/threads/s2-27-class-association.36424/ With a PHRF of 186 she will not be very quick (my S3 7.9 rates 171).  But I think you are correct that your spouse will like it more than a 7.9  Check all the through deck fittings VERY carefully.  Re-bed them all through epoxy plugs if it has not already been done.  My 7.9 had water intrusion into the deck core at chain plates, stanchions, and cockpit winches.  Had I not done these repairs myself (7.9 is easy to work on deck core from underneath) they would  have easily run to $ 5,000.  Look over the deck very carefully, get a survey, use a moisture meter . .  Don't be starry-eyed like I was - take a cynical friend along to look it over.   Click to expand...
Crash said: 186 is “only” 15 secs slower, or less than 10%...so not really that much slower.  Used to race against a well sailed and prepped  Cal 3-30 that rated 162 to my 9.1’s 135, and got beat boat for boat more times than I’d like to admit.  I used to say +/- 12 secs in PHRF is essentially boat on boat. Also, not a butt ton of S2 27s racing regularly, so I suspect 186 could be easy to sail to in a well prepared boat with decent sails &amp; bottom. I recorded about 50% of the deck of my 9.1, and had another 25% to go when I sold it.  But that boat made me look like a better sailor/racer than I was.  Many fond memories from that boat...despite losing a season of racing while recoring it  OBTW, wet balsa retains something like 95% of its sheer strength.  So only real big worry is sections that have rotted/delaminated.... Click to expand...
Crash said: OBTW, wet balsa retains something like 95% of its sheer strength.  So only real big worry is sections that have rotted/delaminated.... Click to expand...
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And then there is that incident at Long Beach . .  boat bashed up on the rocks with amazingly little damage.  Pretty sure is was an S2 27  https://tbrnews.com/photos_videos/video-sailboat-crashes-on-the-rocks-in-king-harbor-marina/video_807b2e56-ff9b-11e7-81e2-fb25aa4c1408.html  

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AJ Oliver said: And then there is that incident at Long Beach . .  boat bashed up on the rocks with amazingly little damage.  Pretty sure is was an S2 27  https://tbrnews.com/photos_videos/video-sailboat-crashes-on-the-rocks-in-king-harbor-marina/video_807b2e56-ff9b-11e7-81e2-fb25aa4c1408.html Click to expand...

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Have my eye on 1985 S2 27. Downsizing from Frers 36, so performance is key. Plan to do cruising and PHRF in Tampa Bay (when things open up). Specs look good on Sailboat data.com. Any thoughts from current/previous owners? thanks for the input  

Seidelmann S2, a Canadian boat not quite up to the standards of a Frers. For the protected waters of Tampa Bay it will do fine. For PHRF check the handicap.  

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Benny17441 said: Seidelmann S2, a Canadian boat not quite up to the standards of a Frers. For the protected waters of Tampa Bay it will do fine. For PHRF check the handicap. Click to expand
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The 27 is a sturdy boat that is great for weekending, day sailing and club racing, sleeps 4 and will provide you with hours of enjoyment. Hull #42 was built in May of 1986 and was refurbished by its second owner in 2003, including professionally done refinishing with Awl-Grip and a new barrier coat on the hull. The engine was replaced in 2007, along with the exhaust systems. The standing rigging was replaced in the spring of 2017 and a back stay adjuster added. In 2014 the sail plan was updated, and included a Doyle battened Dacron mainsail and 135% headsail, Selden fixed bow sprit and a Doyle self-furling cruising spinnaker. Recent hull survey finds that “In spite of the fact that this vessel is nearly 40 years old, it is in remarkably good condition and with some attention to the forgoing, the undersigned would consider the hull sound and seaworthy for service in protected, inland and near shore waters.” The name of the boat, About Time, is aptly named for the hours of enjoyment this craft will provide you. It is easily single handed and can hold 6 comfortably. I must sell her before September and will entertain all reasonable offers.

Equipment: Yanmar 1GM10 9hp diesel inboard (2007) (210 hours) Raymarine instruments Tiller steering Shore power and cord Furlex roller furling headsail system Spinnaker gear Whisker pole Boom vang LED Cabin lights. (5) Jack Stands

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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