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Vene poikkeaa muista sarjavalmisteisista BB 25:ta kevyemmän rakenteensa (n. 500 kg) ansiosta. Rakennuttaja Per-Olof Karlsson toimi Lloyd´s Registerin Turun konttorin tarkastajana, ja laati m.m. rakennelaskelmat Eivind Stillin Finn Fire 33 varten (prototyyppi voitti ¾-tonnareiden MM-kisat 1977). Finn Firestä Karlsson sovelsi Blue Bird 25:n runkoon ja kanteen stringerimodulin ja Rowing-mattoa, jotka muista BB25:tä puuttui. Täten tästä ”one off-sarjavveneestä” tuli kevyempi ja noudattaa aika tarkkaan S&S:n alkuperäislaskemien painoa. Kevyedestä johtuen veneesen lisätttiin n. 100 kg kölipainoa evään alaosaan. Vene on siis todennäköisesti muita sarjarakenteisia sisariaan jäykempi. Myöskin sisustus poikkeaa jonkin verran muista sarjaveneistä ja on silloisen Turun venetelakan sisustajan rakentama. Karlson osallistui itse aktiivisesti veneen rakentamiseen.
Alkuperäinen omistaja kilpaili alkuvuosina aktiivisesti, sen jälkeen vene on ollut matkailukäytössä.
Nykyinen omistaja poisti vaurioituneen Vire-sisämoottorin ja asensi perään tilapäisenä ratkaisuna 8 hv Honda perämoottorin. Tämä tilapäinen ratkaisu on toiminut niin hyvin, m.m. suoden tilaa elintarvikkeille istumakaukalon alle, että se on jäänyt pysyväksi.
S&S-historiaa ajatellen on ehkä kiinnostavaa että BB25 rakennettin Lloyd´s Registerin pienvenessäntöjen mukaisesti. LR:n Turun konttori oli aktiivisest mukana koko suunnittelu- ja valmistusprosessin aikana (ensimmäinen BB 25 esiteltiin Helsingin venemessuilla vuoden 1973 alussa). Alkuperäisomistaja toimi Lloyd´s:in yhteyshenkilönä, ja kun ostin veneen sain kaksi paksua Monopolmappia joissa on ilmeisesti täydellinen luokituslaitoksen, S&S:n ja telakan kirjeenvaihto veneen suunnittelusta aina sarjvalmistukseen. Aineistosta löytyy m.m. yksityskohtaiset linja-, riki ja eri yksityiskohtien rakennepiirustukset, materiaalspesifikaatiot y.m.
FIN 1195 S&S Blue Bird 25 “Marimba”, original name “Lady Bump”, built in 1979
The “Marimba” differs from other production BB 25-yachts from Sandell&Mäntymäki of Turku (abt 33 pcs) because of its lighter displacement (abt 400 kgs saved total displacement with abt 100 kgs heavier keel ).
Orderer/Owner Mr. Per-Olof Karlsson was a surveyor at Lloyd´s Register´s Turku Office. He performed the strength calculations and scantlings for Eivind Still´s Three Quarter Tonner Finn Fire 33, which won the ¾-ton World Cup in 1977. Mr. Karlsson applied these calculations to the hull and deck of his BB 25 to be, including in a stringer module in the hull and use of rowing fiberglass, which wasn´t part of other production BBs. His “one-off series produced boat” was abt 500 kgs lighter than the serial boats, which is quite close to what the original S&S design stipulated. Because of the lightness abt 100 kg led was added to the bottom of the original keel to compensate for decreased stiffness. “Marimba” is thus presumably stiffer than her serial produced sisters. The interior also differs from serial production boats and was handmade by a skilled interior carpenter. Mr. Karlsson played an active role in the construction of his yacht at the Sandell&Mäntymäki yard.
The serial produced boats of Sandell&Mäntymäki all had dark blue hulls, Mr. Karlsson, however, preferred the “Swan look” with a white hull and two blue waterlines. (Other BBs with white hull exist, but they are later one-offs built after Sandell&Mäntymäki was ceased and the molds were used by single builders for yachts of varying quality. Some of these yachts were built with a different deck mold giving a considerably higher and wider – and less aesthetic – deckhouse.)
Mr. Karlsson used his yacht for racing during the first years, since then it has mainly been used for cruising.
The present owner removed the faulty Vire engine from the boat, and as a provisional solution , an 8 HP Honda outboard was fitted . This provisional solution has worked so well, giving space for food stowage under the cockpit, that it has become permanent.
Thinking of S&S history it might be of interest that Sandell&Mäntymäki produced the BB 25 in compliance with Lloyd´s Register´s rules for small craft. LR:s Turku Office and Mr. Karlsson were actively involved during the design and production process (the first BB25 was introduced at Helsinki Boat Fair in 1973). When I bought the yacht from Mr. Karlsson in 2000 he presented me documentation of complete correspondence between S&S, LR and Sandell&Mäntymäki including design and production details. These include detailed line, rigging and detail drawings, specifications of materials to be used and even some handmade corrections to drawings made at the S&S office.
Helenita blue, bluebird 25.
Vene on tyyppiä Bluebird 25, runkonumeroltaan 003 ja rakennettu Sandell & Mäntymäen veistämöllä Turussa vuonna 1973. Veneen alkuperäinen nimi oli Indigo ja omistaja Henrik Ingman, joka tiettävästi osallistui veneellä ainakin Gotland Runt kisaan. Veneellä on ollut Ingmanin jälkeen muutama omistaja Turun seudulla, jolloin sen nimeksi oli vaihtunut Yogurie, ennen kuin se siirtyi Heleniusten käyttöön vuonna 2003 ja uudelleen nimettiin. Nykyisin vene on useamman perheenjäsenen yhteisessä retki- ja matkapurjehduskäytössä. Kesäisin kotisatama on Nauvossa ja talvisin vene on telakoitu Turussa.
Vene oli hankittaessa vuonna 2002 aika lailla alkuperäisessä kunnossa. Veneen alkuperäinen Vire moottori on vaihdettu uuteen Kubota diesel koneeseen samoin kuin osa purjeista sekä kajuutan sisustusta on ehostettu alkuperäisestä melko pelkistetystä tyylistä.
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The trailer alone has to cost that. she’s a big trailerable. Better make sure your vehicle can handle it But looks like a loving owner which is a good sign.
$17500 for a 50 year old trailer sailer? No. Hard pass. For a lot of reasons.
I agree it is high but she also has best offer definitely be offering lower more reasonable price.
First, I wouldn't buy it if I only planned to keep it for 3-4 years before moving to a bigger boat. If you plan to sail it for 15-20 years until retirement, then it becomes a better long term value. It appears to be a very nice, well maintained boat. If you plan to keep it long term, I would make a realistic offer, conditioned on a survey showing no conditions unacceptable to me. I would want to know more about the boat's construction, especially how much of the boat is solid fiberglass and how much is cored.
Probably, a lot less. "Furuno 715 Radar Display" Radar display, where is the RADAR? "LWL is 24 ft. She draws 4 ft 9 in., with a fin keel and bulb, and displaces 8,500 lbs" Hmmm... Pretty heavy boat. 20 foot tongue extension. "Her triple axle-trailer has electric brakes and a 20-ft tongue extension" That doesn't sound like a pain in the ass at all... So you have a 20 foot long truck, a 20 foot tongue extension on a 30-35 ft boat and trailer. So 70-75 ft long rig to back into the water? And the boat alone is 8500 pounds with an almost 5 ft draft? Where are you laucnhing this thing?
Arcb said: Probably, a lot less. . . . . 20 foot tongue extension. "Her triple axle-trailer has electric brakes and a 20-ft tongue extension" That doesn't sound like a pain in the ass at all... Click to expand...
It is already in a slip but now with all the new insight, I will not be buying the cascade 29
So what should I be looking for? I’ve looked at dozen different boats all have some kind of issue. I am just so lost I don’t know what I want now lol
My price range is $15000 top, want to be able to sail the Columbia river and maybe on great occasion head up to pudget sounds. Being able to take friends or family out and be able to captain single handed….
Andrew6305 said: My price range is $15000 top, want to be able to sail the Columbia river and maybe on great occasion head up to pudget sounds. Being able to take friends or family out Click to expand...
For that kind of money, in that size range, I would be looking at newer boats. From the 80s or maybe even the 90s. This one is a tricky one because the trailer is probably worth as much as the boat. So unless you have specific plans in place to trailer the boat, and a big enough truck to tow it with, it would be hard for me to justify spending that kind of money on this set up.
And the whole notion of an interim boat screams lost money.
Got it, 80’s-90’s 😁👍
The fact you made a decision to not buy this boat because of the opinion of one person is not the way to go about this. There is no doubt that Arcb is an experienced sailor; however, Arcb's situation is different than you, his financial situation is different than you, his living situation is different than you, his opinions are different than yours, etc. Point being - please get input from more than 1 person.
But when that one person is right... it can outweigh 20 others.
I plan on docking in slip no trailer. No I’m not tied to trailer sailors it could be no trailer makes no diff to me. I’m not super mechanical or electrical but I do know how to turn a wrench and solder wires together, and I can learn. Agreed I’m am not a carpenter or a mechanic.
Then you have a ton of options. Catalina 25, 27, even 30 though the 30 is pushing your price range these days. Cape Dory, Hunter, Beneteau. Most 1970s boats under 30' can be found in your price range, some work needed. Best way to find one is to ask those who you know to keep an eye out.
Those are a hand laid roving hull. Excellent Robert Smith design. Built by Yacht Constructors in Portland. That one looks very well maintained, and worth twice the asking. Heck the trailer alone is worth a lot. We have several in our club, and some have crossed oceans. No matter how pretty or pedigreed tho, make and model not withstanding, always get a survey. True for any boat you are buying..... These are the kind of the opposite concept from the modern lightweight "floating condo's with masts" that are not intended to leave the dock very often. The 29 is a part of the Cascade Yachts "design family" in hull form that includes the Cascade 36, aka "the affordable circumnavigator". Viewed out of the water that hull is still very "modern" compared to it's contemporaries. BTW, your "bio" here is blank. You should fill in where you plan to sail. You can edit that info in you sig line here, also.
Trailer sailers with a little more junk in the trunk and a stout hull can be awesome if you aren't trying to move a family of more than 2 aboard full time. I went this route before I met my husband. I had an Albin Vega. It was heavy enough to be fairly comfortable and built stout enough that I could sail it anywhere I wanted to go, and small enough in both height (with mast down) and width that I could trailer it without permits or disassembly. In the US this means it has to be no more than 8 feet wide and 14 feet tall. A good tongue extension meant I could launch it from most public ramps free of charge. Dropping and raising the mast could be done solo with a few adjustments and an a-frame or pole. I did need a truck able to tow the weight of boat and trailer safely. For me it was great as my profession allows me to travel. A trailerable boat made it easier for me to coordinate the arrival and departure of both myself and my home. Something else that gets overlooked is that should you decide to explore inland you have the option of pulling in and hooking up at an RV park when you have a trailer sailer.
That is not a bad deal on that boat and trailer if it fits your needs. Actually, it looks like a very attractive package. It will probably sell fairly soon if there are no structural issues. It's age has less to do than the condition. How it looks, sails, motors and the accommodation are what you are looking for. If it fits all those needs for you, go back and take a harder look and maybe make a deal.
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