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bought truant 37 (1980), anyone know of any brochures or sailplans?  

You might check Pacific Yachting's site/archives for some original reviews. Also maybe 48 North. Garden designed with a distinctive fantail stern, built in BC along with the Truant 33 Pilothouse and the Saturna 33 trunk cabin version. Good PNW boats.... Here's a link to a YW listing with some info. View Boat Photos - YachtWorld.com  

Faster said: Here's a link to a YW listing with some info. View Boat Photos - YachtWorld.com Click to expand...

Not much out there online... found this small tidbit... Boat Details 1  

I am considering purchasing a Truant 370. I am not finding much information on it. Are there any other Truant owners out there who can give me any advise on what is good bad. Or what to look out for. I did find out that there was only 24 of the boats built. I would be happy to hear from any Truant owner.  

Truant 370 questions I can't send PM because I am new so I will post it here. netdets I am considering buying a Truant 370. How has yours worked out for you? There are not many out there and I am wondering what I might be getting into. Any Advise is aprreciated. I am looking for a sturdy boat that will last a while. Me and my wife plan to liveaboard and once we start putting money into a boat we'ed like it to be the last boat we put money into. How is the hull on your boat? Do you know what it is cored with? How is the motor? I understand some the marinized VW engines that where used in these boats can be hard to work on. Do you have this motor? I look forward to hearing from you. Abull  

Abull said: How is the motor? I understand some the marinized VW engines that where used in these boats can be hard to work on.... Click to expand...

@Abull: Are you still interested in a Truant 37?  

Vinyl ester or polyester? Would anyone know if Saturna Yachts used vinyl ester resin or polyester resin when laying up the Truant 37?  

I might be a little late here but thought I'd chime in. I own a Truant 37 offshore. I would love to learn more about the boats and hear from the other owners.  

I'm probably a little late here but thought I'd chime in. I own one of the Truant 37 offshores. I'd love to learn more about them and hear from more of the owners.  

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1981/2017 Truant 370 Triad

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This lovely Truant 370 is located in Campbell River, BC. Truant build the hull and engine in 1981, but didn’t launch the model until 2017! An interesting story to tell your friends and family when out on the water.

Specifications

• Cruise – 6 @ 1800 RPM
• Steering – HYD – SS – Wheel – Wagner
• Autopilot – Wagner

Electronic Equipment

• Ship Voltage – 12V
• Aux Generator – No
• Storage Batteries – 1 House – 1 Start
• Charger – Nautilus

Accommodation

• Shower – Yes
• Press Water – Yes
• Hot Water – Yes
• Galley – 2 Sinks
• Stove – 3 Brn Propane
• Refrigeration – Yes
• Freezer – In Fridge
• Headroom – 6’2 – 7′
• Chain – 200′
• Windlass – Yes
• Bow Rail – 22
• Dinghy – Walker Bay 8′
• Bdng Ladder – Yes
• Bilgepumps – 3
• Fire Equipment – 2 Ext
• Alarm System – No
• Heating – Aratic
• Holding Tank – 25 gallons
• Others – Finn Keel, VHF, Raymarine Chart PL, Depth Sounder

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Truant by John Welsford

Sailing with stability and the most fun you can have without getting wet.

URL: http://jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/truant/

Description:

It took 36 hours to travel from home in Rotorua to the tiny coastal town of Brooklin, Maine (USA) where WoodenBoat magazine has its amazing office. I don’t sleep at all well on an aircraft and so was not in good shape by the time Publisher Carl Cramer dropped me off at my accommodation, I was completely on my own there as the summer visitors are rare that far north in January but was pleased for the peaceful spacious lodge after the horrors of being trapped in aircraft and transit lounges for that long. 3am though I awoke and could not sleep, my "clock" was telling me I should be up and about even though my body still felt awful, so there I was roaming around looking at the wonderful Spruce clad rocky shore and the sea gleaming like molten metal in the perfectly still moonlit night.

So I went for a swim !

The word "cold" now has a new meaning for me. I knew that it would be cool but the WoodenBoat crew now view New Zealanders with a mixture of awe and fear, and I, having swum in the waters of Eggemoggin Reach have designed a boat suitable for winter sailing in those waters.

Truant , designed for those who want to play hookey, is a very capable daysailer, with enough performance to be fun, small enough to go onto a garden trailer rather than a custom boat trailer, big enough to take a couple of less limber adults and their camping or picnic gear or a small mob of teenagers away for a small adventure. She is so designed that she will be comfortable to sail, dry in most weather, capable beyond almost anything else of her size and almost impossible to capsize. Her wide beam and smallish centreboard cause her to slide off sideways rather than tip out, her generous freeboard and wide decks help keep the water outside where it belongs and she has so much enclosed locker and air tank space inside that should the unimaginable happen there is enough buoyancy to float her crew completely clear of the water when fully swamped.

Built from Plywood and Marine Supplies sheet plywood and fastened with Sikaflex flexible adhesive/sealant (Thanks Gordon) the prototype is going together well, we’ve cut the transom down to take a small outboard so her owner can take her fishing, have today poured the lead into the centreboard and will be painting her outside tomorrow. Lake Rotomahana has really neat little coves, so tiny that a launch would not squeeze in, and Jan already has tried fitting our pile of camping gear in the big space under the foredeck so I’d better quit the computer and get on with the job!

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The Truant 33 is a 33.0ft masthead sloop designed by William Garden and built in fiberglass since 1977.

The Truant 33 is a heavy sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat.

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• Updated: April 5, 2017

A few years back, I departed Port Angeles, Washington, on board a fine little Truant 33 named Chesapeake and pointed her bow north toward the wild British Columbia coastline. I was 17 years old, and by then I had perfected the art of avoiding school by pirating the family boat and leaving the country for a few weeks at a time. The fact that I was using a boat called a Truant 33 as a means to enable my truancy was no small irony, but I can thank Truant Marine for a lot more than choosing a tasteful name.

The Truant 33 was designed by the legendary William Garden as a small seaworthy sailing vessel for cruising the cold, turbulent waters of the Pacific Northwest year-round in safety and comfort. Rare on vessels this size, the Truant 33’s pilothouse offers welcome protection from the region’s famous “liquid sunshine.”

The Truant 33 was first built in 1977 on Saltspring Island in British Columbia, where Truant Marine produced 30 or so vessels before selling the molds to Saturna Yachts in 1981. Saturna then built the almost-identical Saturna 33 throughout the ’80s, and eventually sold the molds to Wiggers Yachts in Ontario. There are usually a few used vessels to be found on the market, especially in the Pacific Northwest, with a price tag ranging from $30,000 to $60,000.

The Truant packs many unique features into her modest 33 feet, most notably the incorporation of the pilothouse and a very roomy and usable layout down below for living aboard. For those who prefer a more traditional cabin top, the offshore version was built without a pilothouse.

There are various interpretations of the classic layout, but the most common one is with a quarter berth and nav station to starboard with the inside steering station just forward and a dinette to port, which folds down into a double berth. Moving forward, there is a step down to a small enclosed head and hanging locker to starboard and a galley to port that rivals that of many 40-foot vessels. In the bow is either a large V-berth with stowage under or two staggered crew bunks with one raised to make for even more stowage space below. There is standing headroom throughout the cabin, and space to sleep up to five people.

Abovedecks, the Truant 33 has a very secure cockpit, which is given further protection by the pilothouse. The cockpit is small — a nice feature in heavy seas, but it makes for a bit of a squeeze when accommodating guests — though the roomy cabin makes up for that space.

She has a very prominent bow and canoe stern, which, along with her pilothouse, make her stand out in every harbor she visits.

She also sails surprisingly well for such a heavy boat of this size, and in rough weather gives a feeling of security and seaworthiness. The 30-inch-wide side decks and high bulwarks make it easy and safe to move around deck.

Most Truant 33s were set up as sloops, but I have seen where some owners added an inner forestay and running backstays to convert to a cutter rig. Underneath the waterline, she sports a long fin keel with a rudder on a skeg.

In my sailing career, I have more memories made aboard the Truant 33 than on any other design. Along the way we encountered plenty of challenges, yet she took me there and back again safely every time. And she still does.

Ryan Langley is a 24-year-old sailor, adventurer and writer from Washington state.

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Pilothouse in the PNW

• Thread starter Tedd
• Start date Oct 8, 2019
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My wife and I have been been sailing a trailerable boat in the Vancouver area for a couple of years, mainly on Harrison Lake and Indian Arm. We plan to move up to something bigger in a few years when we have the time for longer cruises. Our experience so far has biased us in favour of pilothouses because, outside of a few months in the summer, we've found that we're out in rain quite a bit and also motoring more than I thought we would. There are some quite nice pilothouses around in our size and price range--Gulf 29, Saturna/Truant 33, Cooper 353, Tanzer 10.5. But it seems clear that, dollar for dollar, you get more boat with a "conventional" layout. You can nearly get two decent C&C 33s for the cost of a Truant 33. And I notice that even here, where pilothouses make more sense than probably anywhere else in North America, they're still relatively uncommon. So would I regret a pilothouse? If I can get a newer "conventional" layout with a canvas enclosed cockpit will I be happier in the long run?  

Kings Gambit

From a few summer charters, or with local friends, I’ve noticed that powerboats dominate the “distant” locales. Realizing that you will be in rainy weather and motoring much of the time, the choice between a space-challenged pilothouse sailboat and a trawler of the same length, or nearly so, goes to the trawler or some other model with similar accommodations. I think the cockpit enclosure “splits” the difference, so to speak. But the folks we’ve met in BC traveling in pilothouse sloops, a total of two, have said they love ‘em.  

Mark Maulden

My opinion and take it for what it’s worth...A pilot house with inside steering is nice for the PNW during inclement weather..However, you can’t sail from inside. At least very effectively..From the cockpit, looking fwd in good weather, you have to look over the house. Deck access could be difficult. A lot of sailors like them as when down below, you are still looking outside instead of being inside a hull. With a “conventional” layout, you can install a dodger such that you can get out of weather and breaking water under power. I can stand in the companionway and drive the boat under autopilot with a remote. I could also enclose the cockpit if I want. When things are “favorable”, fouly up and get wet and sail! And a pilot house has more windage...It all comes down to what kind of sailing you want to do..  

Will Gilmore

Com-Pac CP 23 Pilothouse -Will (Dragonfly)  

LeslieTroyer

Les and john’s 2019 extreme winter cruise.

Sail year around here and have a conventional sloop with dodger and bimini. No interest in a pilot house, have had the full cockpit enclosure and disliked it for a variety of reasons. Much prefer the dodger and bimini in all kinds of weather. Layering always helps when the temps dip low. Furnace keeps the interior cozy while on the hook.  

LeslieTroyer said: Alternatively look at the thread of @jssailem @Ward H and my winter cruise - dodger only in some of the snowiest weather in 50years. Click to expand

In the PNW I have had both dodger/ bimini combo and the full enclosure. I find the full enclosure very flexible. Can zip on zipoff panels as required. A little buddy propane heater in the full enclosure really takes the chill off even in the worst of weather. The admiral appreciates it very much. Happy wife...  

I can't say that's the typical image that comes to mind when I think about sailing adventures, but it's sailing and good friends. Looks like a blast. -Will (Dragonfly)  

We can open a spot to crew @Will Gilmore .  

Some day when I install a USB port in my head, I'll be able to download several images and clips of my snowy, stormy, winter cruises. Perhaps when I'm out this winter, I'll capture some with my camera. Just say'n.  

Terry Cox said: install a USB port in my head, Click to expand

jssailem said: Thought you sailed your boat like I do from the Helm. Click to expand

Tedd. Not sure what you are considering in comparison. Sailing speed? The general tool is to compare PHRF RATINGS. CC33 = 135 Catalina 34 = 138 Tanzer 10.5 = 168 These indicate all things being equal the CC33 should get to the moorage ahead of the other two boats. Draft? Getting in to shallow coves or crossing over shallow bars to passages. The Tanzer being a heavier Boat carries a deeper keel (fixed keel) than the other two. But all this is just statistical talk. You have to like the feel of the boat. It needs to be able to do what you want to do. It needs to give you that “Ahhhhhh” moment as you approach the marina and catch that first glimpse of her waiting to take you out on the water. If the boat doesn’t do that to your heart all the stats are of little comfort.  

jssailem said: Tedd. Not sure what you are considering in comparison. Sailing speed? The general tool is to compare PHRF RATINGS. CC33 = 135 Catalina 34 = 138 Tanzer 10.5 = 168 These indicate all things being equal the CC33 should get to the moorage ahead of the other two boats. Draft? Getting in to shallow coves or crossing over shallow bars to passages. The Tanzer being a heavier Boat carries a deeper keel (fixed keel) than the other two. But all this is just statistical talk. You have to like the feel of the boat. It needs to be able to do what you want to do. It needs to give you that “Ahhhhhh” moment as you approach the marina and catch that first glimpse of her waiting to take you out on the water. If the boat doesn’t do that to your heart all the stats are of little comfort. Click to expand

FastOlson said: row away factor Click to expand

jssailem said: Is that like as you row away from the boat at anchor there is a little twinkle in your eye and perhaps the beginning of a tear as you look back over the transom and have to pinch your self to be sure that boat is really yours? Click to expand

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Saturna 33 is a 33 ′ 0 ″ / 10.1 m monohull sailboat designed by William Garden and built by Wiggers Custom Yachts Ltd. starting in 1981.

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Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

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SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

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A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

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Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

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CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Garden design #611. Originally the TRUANT 33 built by Truant Marine, BC, CA. (1977) The tooling was acquired by Saturna Yachts of Saanichton, BC.(1981?) For the SATURNA 33 the deck and coach roof were re-designed (by W. Garden) The standard ‘Offshore’ version is shown here. A Pilothouse version was also available. Boats were also sold in ‘kit’ form. The molds were later acquired by Wiggers Custom Yachts where a few more were built. It is thought that less than 50 boats were completed to this basic design. Thanks to Saturna owner, Bob Coulson, for providing additional information.

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